RE: [gmx-users] AFM pulling rate

2008-08-14 Thread Berk Hess
Hi,

The pull code in Gromacs 3 is pretty messy.
The rate is in nm/ps.
The force is (unfortunately) not written to the pdo file.
You have to redetermine it from the positions,
but beware that one of the two groups could jump over the periodic boundary.

In Gromacs 4 (and the current CVS) I have completely rewritten the pull code.
There are separate xvg output files with only the positions and only the forces.

Berk.

> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:30:35 +0200
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> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
> Subject: [gmx-users] AFM pulling rate
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The unit of the afm_rate in the GROMACS manual 3.3-1 is nm/ps.
> I have read something in an earlier thread on this list that this might 
> be a typo, it should be nm/timestep. Does anyone know? I would be happy 
> if I could have that information.
> 
> Moreover, I am a bit confused about the output in the .pdo-file.  In the 
> description of  .pdo-files on page 113 in the manual 3.3.-1 it is 
> written that the .pdo file will contain calculated forces from 
> AFM-pulling simulation. On the other hand, on page 118, the description 
> of the AFM output is that it only contains positions of reference group, 
> pulled group and spring. This is also the only information I can find in 
> my output. I wonder if there is a way to get the calculated force into 
> the pdo file or if it should be done manually (force=k*extension)?
> 
> /Malin Bergenstråhle
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[gmx-users] AFM pulling rate

2008-08-13 Thread Malin Bergenstråhle

Hi,

The unit of the afm_rate in the GROMACS manual 3.3-1 is nm/ps.
I have read something in an earlier thread on this list that this might 
be a typo, it should be nm/timestep. Does anyone know? I would be happy 
if I could have that information.


Moreover, I am a bit confused about the output in the .pdo-file.  In the 
description of  .pdo-files on page 113 in the manual 3.3.-1 it is 
written that the .pdo file will contain calculated forces from 
AFM-pulling simulation. On the other hand, on page 118, the description 
of the AFM output is that it only contains positions of reference group, 
pulled group and spring. This is also the only information I can find in 
my output. I wonder if there is a way to get the calculated force into 
the pdo file or if it should be done manually (force=k*extension)?


/Malin Bergenstråhle
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Re: [gmx-users] AFM Pulling Rate

2006-06-08 Thread kobi
Hello Bob,

have you tried to define the initial position of the AFM-tip? It needs
to be set to the position of the COM of the group you want to pull. try
and add
"afm_init1 = x y z"
(x y z = position where the afm should be) to your pull.ppa.
Otherwise your afmspring is extended from the beginning so much, that
this extension dominates the force on the pulling group and the
pullingrate is nearly irrelevant until the system relaxed.

ciao Jan
> Hello everyone,
> I am using AFM pulling to drag a dna base across the surface of a graphene. 
> I'm
> doing this in vaccuum. It seems that the base is pulled at the same rate no
> matter what value I specify in afm_rate1. Here is my pull.ppa file:
>
> runtype = afm
> group_1 = ssdna-ions
> pulldim = N N Y
> afm_rate1 = 0.05
> afm_k1 = 100
> afm_dir1 = 0 0 1
>
> I'm using version 3.3. Does anyone know what's going on?
> Thanks,
> Bob Johnson
>
>   


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[gmx-users] AFM Pulling Rate

2006-06-07 Thread Bob Johnson
Hello everyone,
I am using AFM pulling to drag a dna base across the surface of a graphene. I'm
doing this in vaccuum. It seems that the base is pulled at the same rate no
matter what value I specify in afm_rate1. Here is my pull.ppa file:

runtype = afm
group_1 = ssdna-ions
pulldim = N N Y
afm_rate1 = 0.05
afm_k1 = 100
afm_dir1 = 0 0 1

I'm using version 3.3. Does anyone know what's going on?
Thanks,
Bob Johnson
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