Re: [gmx-users] Adding polarizability

2007-11-21 Thread David Mobley
David,

 As Mark answered there is no out of thebox polarizability. AFAIK there
 is no complete force field like that in Amber either, only Tinker has one.

Just to clarify here, AMBER has an implementation of AMOEBA, Jay
Ponder's polarizable force field that is also implemented in Tinker.
So yes, there is a polarizable force field in AMBER.

David
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Re: [gmx-users] Adding polarizability

2007-11-21 Thread David van der Spoel

David Mobley wrote:

David,


As Mark answered there is no out of thebox polarizability. AFAIK there
is no complete force field like that in Amber either, only Tinker has one.


Just to clarify here, AMBER has an implementation of AMOEBA, Jay
Ponder's polarizable force field that is also implemented in Tinker.
So yes, there is a polarizable force field in AMBER.


Interesting, does that include all the multipoles and buffered 7-14 
potentials etc?




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Re: [gmx-users] Adding polarizability

2007-11-21 Thread David Mobley
David,

 Interesting, does that include all the multipoles and buffered 7-14
 potentials etc?

Yes. My understanding is that the implementation is somehow separate
from the main AMBER implementation and actually requires a copy of
Tinker to set up the input files, but this may have changed (I haven't
used it). You'll probably have to see the AMBER manual for details.

Thanks,
David




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[gmx-users] Adding polarizability

2007-11-19 Thread Eric Shamay
Dear gromacs community,

I've been trying to switch over from AMBER and I'm running into a few issues
that the manual doesn't clarify well enough for me. Can anyone point me to
information on adding in polarizability to atoms? In amber it was a simple
matter of adjusting the frcmod file, but I can't find the location to add
that info in for gromacs. Additionally, what do I need to do in terms of the
run-parameters and topology/force-field to enable polarizability (the
equivalent in AMBER would be IPOL=1)?

Secondly, if I'm looking to use the flexible SPC water (a la Ferguson) I've
found that I can specify the '-water spc' option during the pdb2gmx
conversion while choosing the gromacs 53a6 force field (not sure that it
makes a difference), and I add in the -DFLEX_SPC keyword under the 'define'
section of the grompp.mdp run-parameter file. Is that all I need to do, or
is there a missing or incorrectly done step before I can actually use the
flexible SPC?

Lastly, I would also like to use the anharmonic (cubic) term for the OH
stretching as per ferguson. What do I need to do to enable this?

Thank you,
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Re: [gmx-users] Adding polarizability

2007-11-19 Thread David van der Spoel

Eric Shamay wrote:

Dear gromacs community,

I've been trying to switch over from AMBER and I'm running into a few 
issues that the manual doesn't clarify well enough for me. Can anyone 
point me to information on adding in polarizability to atoms? In amber 
it was a simple matter of adjusting the frcmod file, but I can't find 
the location to add that info in for gromacs. Additionally, what do I 
need to do in terms of the run-parameters and topology/force-field to 
enable polarizability (the equivalent in AMBER would be IPOL=1)?
As Mark answered there is no out of thebox polarizability. AFAIK there 
is no complete force field like that in Amber either, only Tinker has one.


Secondly, if I'm looking to use the flexible SPC water (a la Ferguson) 
I've found that I can specify the '-water spc' option during the pdb2gmx 
conversion while choosing the gromacs 53a6 force field (not sure that it 
makes a difference), and I add in the -DFLEX_SPC keyword under the 
'define' section of the grompp.mdp run-parameter file. Is that all I 
need to do, or is there a missing or incorrectly done step before I can 
actually use the flexible SPC?


Lastly, I would also like to use the anharmonic (cubic) term for the OH 
stretching as per ferguson. What do I need to do to enable this?


there is flexspc.itp with this model. There is also TIP4P/Flex.



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Re: [gmx-users] Adding polarizability

2007-11-19 Thread Mark Abraham

Eric Shamay wrote:

Dear gromacs community,

I've been trying to switch over from AMBER and I'm running into a few 
issues that the manual doesn't clarify well enough for me. Can anyone 
point me to information on adding in polarizability to atoms? In amber 
it was a simple matter of adjusting the frcmod file, but I can't find 
the location to add that info in for gromacs. Additionally, what do I 
need to do in terms of the run-parameters and topology/force-field to 
enable polarizability (the equivalent in AMBER would be IPOL=1)?


GROMACS only does polarizability using shell functions (see various 
sections of the GROMACS manual), and there's no out-of-the-box AMBER 
equivalence implemented.


Secondly, if I'm looking to use the flexible SPC water (a la Ferguson) 
I've found that I can specify the '-water spc' option during the pdb2gmx 
conversion while choosing the gromacs 53a6 force field (not sure that it 
makes a difference), and I add in the -DFLEX_SPC keyword under the 
'define' section of the grompp.mdp run-parameter file. Is that all I 
need to do, or is there a missing or incorrectly done step before I can 
actually use the flexible SPC?


Don't know. Please put different subjects in a different email, so that 
people can usefully use the email subject line to discard emails of no 
interest to them. This means you increase your chances that someone who 
knows your answer will read your email :-)


Lastly, I would also like to use the anharmonic (cubic) term for the OH 
stretching as per ferguson. What do I need to do to enable this?


Don't know. Chapters 45 of the manual treat such topics, if they can be 
treated.


Mark
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