Re: [gmx-users] CG-MD simulation of protein, always crash with protein

2010-04-20 Thread XAvier Periole


The representation of extended regions (b-sheets) is more stable using  
elastic
bonds than a dihedral angle because the flexibility of the force field  
makes possible
the occurrence of situations where the two bonds get aligned and  
therefore the
plan used to defined the dihedral can not be calculated and the  
program crashes.


But I am not sure that was your problem. You mentioned that the  
program was
stopping due to too many lincs warnings. Cycles (trp, phe, his) seemed  
to be the

cause.
Do you still have lincs warnings, may be less?

The other thing is that is your protein deforms as much as before,  
there is another

way to simulate you protein with  Martini:
http://md.chem.rug.nl/cgmartini/index.php/tools/118-end

XAvier.

On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Trang wrote:

Elastic bonds did help the system survive. I'm not really understand  
why do we need more robust bonds in this system. Does it mean that  
there exists large forces that cause my system to blow up? Would you  
mind giving an explanation?


Thanks indeed for your taking time to help.

Trang


On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Martti Louhivuori m.j.louhivu...@rug.nl 
 wrote:

On 19 Apr 2010, at 06:49, Trang wrote:
The protein topo is too large, so I put it here. http://pastie.org/926617

The protein topology is fine, but you could try also with elastic  
bonds instead of dihedrals in the extended regions (--elastic  
option). Elastic bonds are more robust than dihedrals, especially if  
running with a larger timestep (30fs).



Here is the system topology.


#include ../martini_v2.1.itp
#include ../martini_v2.1_aminoacids.itp

The last line is unnecessary. Use it only when simulating single  
aminoacids instead of a polypeptide.



Minimized structure showed no close contact (with distance cutoff  
1.6, even to 1.9). Production run stopped at


That's only 0.16-0.19nm, so overlap is still possible.


step 175552 (5266.56 ps) with Segmentation fault, preceeded with a  
lot of Lincs warnings (I set ring_bonds = constraints).  This is  
the mdp file, this file goes along with the system in vaccuum that  
crashed. I'm not sure if


What's different this time around? Last time you said you couldn't  
run it even in vacuum.


Sounds like you are just hitting statistical limits with your  
combination of (extended) dihedrals + 30fs timestep. Use a smaller  
timestep (20fs for example) or switch to local elastic bonds for the  
beta-strands... and solvate the system (without overlap) so the  
simulation makes some sense!



-martti-
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Moleculaire Dynamica
University of Groningen
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Re: [gmx-users] CG-MD simulation of protein, always crash with protein

2010-04-19 Thread XAvier Periole


Hi,

the rmsd you show is for the protein in vacuum? It goes up to 0.7 nm!  
That is a very
large deformation, is it expected? Isn't your protein freezing and all  
the kinetic energy

going into translational motion.

there is a few things you could try.
1- First you should increase the rlilst to at least 1.3 but 1.4 would  
be better.

2- And/or reduce the nstlist to 5.

You should modify at least one of the two, that will increases the  
cost of your simulation

but should make increase energy conservation.

Then you should try a smaller time step 0.020 ps might just remove all  
the lincs warnings.


XAvier.




On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Martti Louhivuori m.j.louhivu...@rug.nl 
 wrote:

On 15 Apr 2010, at 18:06, Trang wrote:
My target system is a protein with lipid molecules added randomly  
(using GENBOX). Running MD, I expect to


I hope you're using a larger van der Waals distance (0.24nm or so)  
when inserting the lipids.


I tried 0.3 - 0.5. It looked fine, but didn't work.


broke down the problem, that is, to run md simulation for the  
protein molecule only, and in vacuum. Still no improvement. Although  
all the distances in the minimized structure are visually proper,  
the system exploded.


If you can't run the protein even in vacuum, then the problem is  
either in your MD parameters, starting co-ordinates or some simple  
mistake somewhere. Since the .mdp files you posted seem ok, my bet  
is on the starting co-ordinates, just as Xavier proposed.


Could you post the system topology (.top) and the protein topology  
(.itp), so we can rule out any mistakes in those?


The protein topo is too large, so I put it here. http://pastie.org/926617
Here is the system topology.


#include ../martini_v2.1.itp
#include ../martini_v2.1_aminoacids.itp
#include 11BHSD1.itp

; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif


[ system ]
11BHSD1

[ molecules ]
11BHSD1   1



You should also double check whether you have close contacts between  
some atoms in the protein; e.g. in VMD this is easily done using the  
dynamic bonds representation.


-martti-

Minimized structure showed no close contact (with distance cutoff  
1.6, even to 1.9). Production run stopped at step 175552 (5266.56  
ps) with Segmentation fault, preceeded with a lot of Lincs warnings  
(I set ring_bonds = constraints).  This is the mdp file, this file  
goes along with the system in vaccuum that crashed. I'm not sure if  
too long simulation time can be the cause. The strange thing is that  
the system seemed to be relatively stable at the time of crash.  
rmds.xvg is below, in case you want to see the graph first-hand.


-MD---
integrator   = md
tinit= 0.0
dt   = 0.030
nsteps   = 90
nstcomm  = 1
comm-grps=
nstxout  = 5000
nstvout  = 5000
nstfout  = 0
nstlog   = 2000
nstenergy= 2000
nstxtcout= 1000
xtc_precision= 100
xtc-grps =
energygrps   =
nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist= 1.2
coulombtype  = Shift
rcoulomb_switch  = 0.0
rcoulomb = 1.2
epsilon_r= 15
vdw_type = Shift
rvdw_switch  = 0.9
rvdw = 1.2
DispCorr = No
tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = Protein
tau_t= 0.3
ref_t= 323
Pcoupl   = berendsen
Pcoupltype   = isotropic
tau_p= 3.0
compressibility  = 3e-5
ref_p= 1.0
gen_vel  = no
gen_temp = 323
gen_seed = 666
constraints  = none
constraint_algorithm = Lincs
unconstrained_start  = no
lincs_order  = 4
lincs_warnangle  = 30
--

-rmsd.xvg---
@title RMSD
@xaxis  label Time (ps)
@yaxis  label RMSD (nm)
@TYPE xy
@ subtitle Protein after lsq fit to Protein
   0.0000.0001400
 150.0000.6150032
 300.0000.6162945
 450.0000.6451609
 600.0000.6317724
 750.0000.6501579
 900.0000.6642945
1050.0000.6742513
1200.0000.6651280
1350.0000.6965100
1500.0000.6856629
1650.0000.7271055
1800.0000.7174531
1950.0000.7088170
2100.0000.7492073
2250.0000.7352809
2400.0000.7196461
2550.0000.7162255
2700.0000.7277457
2850.0000.7121301
3000.0000.7084662
3150.0000.7153199
3300.000

Re: [gmx-users] CG-MD simulation of protein, always crash with protein

2010-04-19 Thread Martti Louhivuori

On 19 Apr 2010, at 06:49, Trang wrote:

The protein topo is too large, so I put it here. http://pastie.org/926617


The protein topology is fine, but you could try also with elastic  
bonds instead of dihedrals in the extended regions (--elastic option).  
Elastic bonds are more robust than dihedrals, especially if running  
with a larger timestep (30fs).



Here is the system topology.


#include ../martini_v2.1.itp
#include ../martini_v2.1_aminoacids.itp


The last line is unnecessary. Use it only when simulating single  
aminoacids instead of a polypeptide.


Minimized structure showed no close contact (with distance cutoff  
1.6, even to 1.9). Production run stopped at


That's only 0.16-0.19nm, so overlap is still possible.

step 175552 (5266.56 ps) with Segmentation fault, preceeded with a  
lot of Lincs warnings (I set ring_bonds = constraints).  This is  
the mdp file, this file goes along with the system in vaccuum that  
crashed. I'm not sure if


What's different this time around? Last time you said you couldn't run  
it even in vacuum.


Sounds like you are just hitting statistical limits with your  
combination of (extended) dihedrals + 30fs timestep. Use a smaller  
timestep (20fs for example) or switch to local elastic bonds for the  
beta-strands... and solvate the system (without overlap) so the  
simulation makes some sense!


-martti-
--
Post-doctoral research fellow
Moleculaire Dynamica
University of Groningen
Nijenborgh 4, 9747AG Groningen, the Netherlands
tel. +(31) 50 363 4339 | fax. +(31) 50 363 4398

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Re: [gmx-users] CG-MD simulation of protein, always crash with protein

2010-04-19 Thread Trang
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:08 PM, XAvier Periole x.peri...@rug.nl wrote:


 Hi,

 the rmsd you show is for the protein in vacuum? It goes up to 0.7 nm! That
 is a very
 large deformation, is it expected? Isn't your protein freezing and all the
 kinetic energy
 going into translational motion.

 there is a few things you could try.
 1- First you should increase the rlilst to at least 1.3 but 1.4 would be
 better.
 2- And/or reduce the nstlist to 5.

 You should modify at least one of the two, that will increases the cost
 of your simulation
 but should make increase energy conservation.

 Then you should try a smaller time step 0.020 ps might just remove all the
 lincs warnings.

 XAvier.

 I made all the modifications suggested, but the system still crashed (with
segmentation fault). However, 'elastic bonds' representation that Martti
suggested works and I may need these modifications later. Thanks for being
so patient with my problem.



 On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Martti Louhivuori 
 m.j.louhivu...@rug.nlwrote:

 On 15 Apr 2010, at 18:06, Trang wrote:

 My target system is a protein with lipid molecules added randomly (using
 GENBOX). Running MD, I expect to


 I hope you're using a larger van der Waals distance (0.24nm or so) when
 inserting the lipids.


 I tried 0.3 - 0.5. It looked fine, but didn't work.



  broke down the problem, that is, to run md simulation for the protein
 molecule only, and in vacuum. Still no improvement. Although all the
 distances in the minimized structure are visually proper, the system
 exploded.


 If you can't run the protein even in vacuum, then the problem is either in
 your MD parameters, starting co-ordinates or some simple mistake somewhere.
 Since the .mdp files you posted seem ok, my bet is on the starting
 co-ordinates, just as Xavier proposed.

 Could you post the system topology (.top) and the protein topology (.itp),
 so we can rule out any mistakes in those?


 The protein topo is too large, so I put it here. http://pastie.org/926617
 Here is the system topology.

 
 #include ../martini_v2.1.itp
 #include ../martini_v2.1_aminoacids.itp
 #include 11BHSD1.itp

 ; Include Position restraint file
 #ifdef POSRES
 #include posre.itp
 #endif


 [ system ]
 11BHSD1

 [ molecules ]
 11BHSD1   1
 



 You should also double check whether you have close contacts between some
 atoms in the protein; e.g. in VMD this is easily done using the dynamic
 bonds representation.


 -martti-


 Minimized structure showed no close contact (with distance cutoff 1.6, even
 to 1.9). Production run stopped at step 175552 (5266.56 ps) with
 Segmentation fault, preceeded with a lot of Lincs warnings (I set ring_bonds
 = constraints).  This is the mdp file, this file goes along with the
 system in vaccuum that crashed. I'm not sure if too long simulation time can
 be the cause. The strange thing is that the system seemed to be relatively
 stable at the time of crash. rmds.xvg is below, in case you want to see the
 graph first-hand.

 -MD---
 integrator   = md
 tinit= 0.0
 dt   = 0.030
 nsteps   = 90
 nstcomm  = 1
 comm-grps=
 nstxout  = 5000
 nstvout  = 5000
 nstfout  = 0
 nstlog   = 2000
 nstenergy= 2000
 nstxtcout= 1000
 xtc_precision= 100
 xtc-grps =
 energygrps   =
 nstlist  = 10
 ns_type  = grid
 pbc  = xyz
 rlist= 1.2
 coulombtype  = Shift
 rcoulomb_switch  = 0.0
 rcoulomb = 1.2
 epsilon_r= 15
 vdw_type = Shift
 rvdw_switch  = 0.9
 rvdw = 1.2
 DispCorr = No
 tcoupl   = Berendsen
 tc-grps  = Protein
 tau_t= 0.3
 ref_t= 323
 Pcoupl   = berendsen
 Pcoupltype   = isotropic
 tau_p= 3.0
 compressibility  = 3e-5
 ref_p= 1.0
 gen_vel  = no
 gen_temp = 323
 gen_seed = 666
 constraints  = none
 constraint_algorithm = Lincs
 unconstrained_start  = no
 lincs_order  = 4
 lincs_warnangle  = 30
 --

 -rmsd.xvg---
 @title RMSD
 @xaxis  label Time (ps)
 @yaxis  label RMSD (nm)
 @TYPE xy
 @ subtitle Protein after lsq fit to Protein
0.0000.0001400
  150.0000.6150032
  300.0000.6162945
  450.0000.6451609
  600.0000.6317724
  750.0000.6501579
  900.0000.6642945
 

Re: [gmx-users] CG-MD simulation of protein, always crash with protein

2010-04-19 Thread Trang
Elastic bonds did help the system survive. I'm not really understand why do
we need more robust bonds in this system. Does it mean that there exists
large forces that cause my system to blow up? Would you mind giving an
explanation?

Thanks indeed for your taking time to help.

Trang


On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Martti Louhivuori m.j.louhivu...@rug.nlwrote:

 On 19 Apr 2010, at 06:49, Trang wrote:

 The protein topo is too large, so I put it here. http://pastie.org/926617


 The protein topology is fine, but you could try also with elastic bonds
 instead of dihedrals in the extended regions (--elastic option). Elastic
 bonds are more robust than dihedrals, especially if running with a larger
 timestep (30fs).


  Here is the system topology.

 
 #include ../martini_v2.1.itp
 #include ../martini_v2.1_aminoacids.itp


 The last line is unnecessary. Use it only when simulating single aminoacids
 instead of a polypeptide.


  Minimized structure showed no close contact (with distance cutoff 1.6,
 even to 1.9). Production run stopped at


 That's only 0.16-0.19nm, so overlap is still possible.


  step 175552 (5266.56 ps) with Segmentation fault, preceeded with a lot of
 Lincs warnings (I set ring_bonds = constraints).  This is the mdp file,
 this file goes along with the system in vaccuum that crashed. I'm not sure
 if


 What's different this time around? Last time you said you couldn't run it
 even in vacuum.

 Sounds like you are just hitting statistical limits with your combination
 of (extended) dihedrals + 30fs timestep. Use a smaller timestep (20fs for
 example) or switch to local elastic bonds for the beta-strands... and
 solvate the system (without overlap) so the simulation makes some sense!


 -martti-
 --
 Post-doctoral research fellow
 Moleculaire Dynamica
 University of Groningen
 Nijenborgh 4, 9747AG Groningen, the Netherlands
 tel. +(31) 50 363 4339 | fax. +(31) 50 363 4398

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Re: [gmx-users] CG-MD simulation of protein, always crash with protein

2010-04-18 Thread Trang
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Martti Louhivuori m.j.louhivu...@rug.nlwrote:

 On 15 Apr 2010, at 18:06, Trang wrote:

 My target system is a protein with lipid molecules added randomly (using
 GENBOX). Running MD, I expect to


 I hope you're using a larger van der Waals distance (0.24nm or so) when
 inserting the lipids.


I tried 0.3 - 0.5. It looked fine, but didn't work.



  broke down the problem, that is, to run md simulation for the protein
 molecule only, and in vacuum. Still no improvement. Although all the
 distances in the minimized structure are visually proper, the system
 exploded.


 If you can't run the protein even in vacuum, then the problem is either in
 your MD parameters, starting co-ordinates or some simple mistake somewhere.
 Since the .mdp files you posted seem ok, my bet is on the starting
 co-ordinates, just as Xavier proposed.

 Could you post the system topology (.top) and the protein topology (.itp),
 so we can rule out any mistakes in those?


The protein topo is too large, so I put it here. http://pastie.org/926617
Here is the system topology.


#include ../martini_v2.1.itp
#include ../martini_v2.1_aminoacids.itp
#include 11BHSD1.itp

; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif


[ system ]
11BHSD1

[ molecules ]
11BHSD1   1




 You should also double check whether you have close contacts between some
 atoms in the protein; e.g. in VMD this is easily done using the dynamic
 bonds representation.


 -martti-


Minimized structure showed no close contact (with distance cutoff 1.6, even
to 1.9). Production run stopped at step 175552 (5266.56 ps) with
Segmentation fault, preceeded with a lot of Lincs warnings (I set ring_bonds
= constraints).  This is the mdp file, this file goes along with the
system in vaccuum that crashed. I'm not sure if too long simulation time can
be the cause. The strange thing is that the system seemed to be relatively
stable at the time of crash. rmds.xvg is below, in case you want to see the
graph first-hand.

-MD---
integrator   = md
tinit= 0.0
dt   = 0.030
nsteps   = 90
nstcomm  = 1
comm-grps=
nstxout  = 5000
nstvout  = 5000
nstfout  = 0
nstlog   = 2000
nstenergy= 2000
nstxtcout= 1000
xtc_precision= 100
xtc-grps =
energygrps   =
nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist= 1.2
coulombtype  = Shift
rcoulomb_switch  = 0.0
rcoulomb = 1.2
epsilon_r= 15
vdw_type = Shift
rvdw_switch  = 0.9
rvdw = 1.2
DispCorr = No
tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = Protein
tau_t= 0.3
ref_t= 323
Pcoupl   = berendsen
Pcoupltype   = isotropic
tau_p= 3.0
compressibility  = 3e-5
ref_p= 1.0
gen_vel  = no
gen_temp = 323
gen_seed = 666
constraints  = none
constraint_algorithm = Lincs
unconstrained_start  = no
lincs_order  = 4
lincs_warnangle  = 30
--

-rmsd.xvg---
@title RMSD
@xaxis  label Time (ps)
@yaxis  label RMSD (nm)
@TYPE xy
@ subtitle Protein after lsq fit to Protein
   0.0000.0001400
 150.0000.6150032
 300.0000.6162945
 450.0000.6451609
 600.0000.6317724
 750.0000.6501579
 900.0000.6642945
1050.0000.6742513
1200.0000.6651280
1350.0000.6965100
1500.0000.6856629
1650.0000.7271055
1800.0000.7174531
1950.0000.7088170
2100.0000.7492073
2250.0000.7352809
2400.0000.7196461
2550.0000.7162255
2700.0000.7277457
2850.0000.7121301
3000.0000.7084662
3150.0000.7153199
3300.0000.7209989
3450.0000.7342823
3600.0000.7297466
3750.0000.7254455
3900.0000.7175814
4050.0000.7134616
4200.0000.7212958
4350.0000.7258847
4500.0000.7201833
4650.0000.7286560
4800.0000.7188574
4950.0000.715
5100.0000.7247230
5250.0000.7153631
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Re: [gmx-users] CG-MD simulation of protein, always crash with protein

2010-04-16 Thread Martti Louhivuori

On 15 Apr 2010, at 18:06, Trang wrote:
My target system is a protein with lipid molecules added randomly  
(using GENBOX). Running MD, I expect to


I hope you're using a larger van der Waals distance (0.24nm or so)  
when inserting the lipids.


broke down the problem, that is, to run md simulation for the  
protein molecule only, and in vacuum. Still no improvement. Although  
all the distances in the minimized structure are visually proper,  
the system exploded.


If you can't run the protein even in vacuum, then the problem is  
either in your MD parameters, starting co-ordinates or some simple  
mistake somewhere. Since the .mdp files you posted seem ok, my bet is  
on the starting co-ordinates, just as Xavier proposed.


Could you post the system topology (.top) and the protein topology  
(.itp), so we can rule out any mistakes in those? You should also  
double check whether you have close contacts between some atoms in the  
protein; e.g. in VMD this is easily done using the dynamic bonds  
representation.


-martti-
--
Post-doctoral research fellow
Moleculaire Dynamica
University of Groningen
Nijenborgh 4, 9747AG Groningen, the Netherlands
tel. +(31) 50 363 4339 | fax. +(31) 50 363 4398

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[gmx-users] CG-MD simulation of protein, always crash with protein

2010-04-15 Thread Trang
Dear gmx users,
I'm trying to run some CG-MD with gromacs, using the available Martini FF.
The first run with {lipid + water} is fine. The POPC lipid bilayer is
successfully self-assembled. I then applied Martini FF for system involving
protein.
All the systems I've tried so far could not survive an md run for long
enough. Most of them crashed at the very first step.

I've encountered different types of errors (range checking error,
segmentation fault...) and even hanging of the system, all of which converge
at the same suggestion that the system hasn't been minimized/equilibrated
well enough.

I've tried some tracing back but still cannot figure out where the problem
can be.

* From screen output, I traced back to the atoms on which large force
affect: most of the cases, these atoms belong to the ring of amino acid such
as TRP, TYR. The worst case was that, 2 beads of 1 TRP totally overlap after
minimization!!! The newest trial is related to atom 195 - 196 - 197, which
are beads of the same TYR
residuehttp://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/RMSyRH801u44-EiSQjK0-A?feat=directlink.
What kind of problem can cause such a bad minimization?

* From log file after crashed runs, I found the initial temperature is
extremely high (e.g 6.67074e+12 K, etc). A colleague of mine suggest that it
may be due to the high pressure, which in turn caused by unevenly
distributed molecules in the input structure. This seemed to be reasonable,
for after minimization
(picturehttp://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/bSLh3oSC5VLxwRrmpeMecQ?feat=directlink),
the distribution of water is even worse than the initial state (
picturehttp://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qNEp0_FZdxiO05PqTVBsTw?feat=directlink).
But, I get stuck and have no idea why minimization can make system so bad.
This is the mdp for the minimization step
---MINI---
title= Martini
cpp  = /usr/bin/cpp
integrator   = steep
tinit= 0.0
dt   = 0.025
nsteps   = 500
nstcomm  = 1
comm-grps=
nstxout  = 5000
nstvout  = 5000
nstfout  = 0
nstlog   = 1000
nstenergy= 1000
nstxtcout= 1000
xtc_precision= 100
xtc-grps =
energygrps   =
nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist= 1.2
coulombtype  = Shift
rcoulomb_switch  = 0.0
rcoulomb = 1.2
epsilon_r= 15
vdw_type = Shift
rvdw_switch  = 0.9
rvdw = 1.2
DispCorr = No
tcoupl   = no
Pcoupl   = no
gen_vel  = no
gen_temp = 320
gen_seed = 473529
constraints  = none
constraint_algorithm = Lincs
unconstrained_start  = no
lincs_order  = 4
lincs_warnangle  = 30



and this is for the next step md
MD--
title= Martini
cpp  = /usr/bin/cpp
integrator   = md
tinit= 0.0
dt   = 0.025
nsteps   = 5
nstcomm  = 1
comm-grps=
nstxout  = 5000
nstvout  = 5000
nstfout  = 0
nstlog   = 2000
nstenergy= 2000
nstxtcout= 1000
xtc_precision= 100
xtc-grps =
energygrps   =
nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist= 1.2
coulombtype  = Shift
rcoulomb_switch  = 0.0
rcoulomb = 1.2
epsilon_r= 15
vdw_type = Shift
rvdw_switch  = 0.9
rvdw = 1.2
DispCorr = No
tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = Protein W
tau_t= 0.3 0.3
ref_t= 323 323
Pcoupl   = berendsen
Pcoupltype   = isotropic
tau_p= 3.0
compressibility  = 3e-5
ref_p= 1.0
gen_vel  = no
gen_temp = 323
gen_seed = 666
constraints  = none
constraint_algorithm = Lincs
unconstrained_start  = no
lincs_order  = 4
lincs_warnangle  = 30


I've struggled with this for about 2 weeks and still have no idea of where
to fix the problem. Am I missing something too basic for tutorials to

Re: [gmx-users] CG-MD simulation of protein, always crash with protein

2010-04-15 Thread XAvier Periole


It is mot likely that your preparation of the system is somehow  
corrupted.
The insertion of a protein in a lipid bilayer might easily introduce  
strong

forces in the system and thereby result in a crash of your simulation.

It is also possible that your protein topology is not describing your  
system
correctly. This no one can tell without knowing how you built your  
topology

and for which kind of system.

Note that cycle in the Martini FF (Tyr/Trp/His) use constrains and are
therefore extremely sensible to strong forces in there environment.

I would suggest you get back to the point where you insert your protein
in the bilayer and check very carefully potential bad contact between  
the

protein and the lipid. The minimization should go smooth and running
should not be problematic.

XAvier.

On Apr 15, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Trang wrote:


Dear gmx users,
I'm trying to run some CG-MD with gromacs, using the available  
Martini FF.
The first run with {lipid + water} is fine. The POPC lipid bilayer  
is successfully self-assembled. I then applied Martini FF for system  
involving protein.
All the systems I've tried so far could not survive an md run for  
long enough. Most of them crashed at the very first step.


I've encountered different types of errors (range checking error,  
segmentation fault...) and even hanging of the system, all of which  
converge at the same suggestion that the system hasn't been  
minimized/equilibrated well enough.


I've tried some tracing back but still cannot figure out where the  
problem can be.


* From screen output, I traced back to the atoms on which large  
force affect: most of the cases, these atoms belong to the ring of  
amino acid such as TRP, TYR. The worst case was that, 2 beads of 1  
TRP totally overlap after minimization!!! The newest trial is  
related to atom 195 - 196 - 197, which are beads of the same TYR  
residue . What kind of problem can cause such a bad minimization?


* From log file after crashed runs, I found the initial temperature  
is extremely high (e.g 6.67074e+12 K, etc). A colleague of mine  
suggest that it may be due to the high pressure, which in turn  
caused by unevenly distributed molecules in the input structure.  
This seemed to be reasonable, for after minimization (picture ), the  
distribution of water is even worse than the initial state  
(picture). But, I get stuck and have no idea why minimization can  
make system so bad. This is the mdp for the minimization step
--- 
MINI---

title= Martini
cpp  = /usr/bin/cpp
integrator   = steep
tinit= 0.0
dt   = 0.025
nsteps   = 500
nstcomm  = 1
comm-grps=
nstxout  = 5000
nstvout  = 5000
nstfout  = 0
nstlog   = 1000
nstenergy= 1000
nstxtcout= 1000
xtc_precision= 100
xtc-grps =
energygrps   =
nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist= 1.2
coulombtype  = Shift
rcoulomb_switch  = 0.0
rcoulomb = 1.2
epsilon_r= 15
vdw_type = Shift
rvdw_switch  = 0.9
rvdw = 1.2
DispCorr = No
tcoupl   = no
Pcoupl   = no
gen_vel  = no
gen_temp = 320
gen_seed = 473529
constraints  = none
constraint_algorithm = Lincs
unconstrained_start  = no
lincs_order  = 4
lincs_warnangle  = 30



and this is for the next step md
 
MD--

title= Martini
cpp  = /usr/bin/cpp
integrator   = md
tinit= 0.0
dt   = 0.025
nsteps   = 5
nstcomm  = 1
comm-grps=
nstxout  = 5000
nstvout  = 5000
nstfout  = 0
nstlog   = 2000
nstenergy= 2000
nstxtcout= 1000
xtc_precision= 100
xtc-grps =
energygrps   =
nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist= 1.2
coulombtype  = Shift
rcoulomb_switch  = 0.0
rcoulomb = 1.2
epsilon_r= 15
vdw_type = Shift
rvdw_switch  = 0.9
rvdw = 1.2
DispCorr = No
tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = Protein W
tau_t= 0.3 0.3