[gmx-users] Dangling bond at terminal end of RNA rosetta model

2012-12-26 Thread Gert Peters

Hi everybody,

Im trying to use GROMACS for MD of a RNA model generated by Rosetta 
(FARFAR). As a test I try processing a modelledpdb file. When I prepare 
thetopology files (pdb2gmx -f test.pdb -ff amber99 -ignh

) from pdb I encounter following output :

Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file 
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/aminoacids.hdb
Opening force field file 
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/dna.hdb
Opening force field file 
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/rna.hdb
Opening force field file 
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb
Opening force field file 
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb


Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.12#
Processing chain 1 'A' (165 atoms, 8 residues)
Identified residue rG1 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue rC8 as a ending terminus.
8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully

---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.5
Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1031

Fatal error:
There is a dangling bond at at least one of the terminal ends and the 
force field does not provide terminal entries or files. Edit a .n.tdb 
and/or .c.tdb file.

For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---


When processing the corresponding structure from the pdb database 
(2IXZ)all files are generated as expected. I tried to compare the de 
novo model with the experimentally determined one but I cant find the 
problem(all terminal residues seem to have the same amountof atoms when 
ignoring the hydrogen atoms). I dont have a clue where to look next.


Anyone got a clueto solve this issue?

Thanks in advance,

Kind regards,
Gert
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Re: [gmx-users] Dangling bond at terminal end of RNA rosetta model

2012-12-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 12/26/12 6:32 PM, Gert Peters wrote:

Hi everybody,

Im trying to use GROMACS for MD of a RNA model generated by Rosetta (FARFAR).
As a test I try processing a modelledpdb file. When I prepare thetopology
files (pdb2gmx -f test.pdb -ff amber99 -ignh ) from pdb I encounter following
output :

Sorting it all out... Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/aminoacids.hdb Opening force
field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/dna.hdb Opening
force field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/rna.hdb
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb Opening
force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb

Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.12# Processing chain 1
'A' (165 atoms, 8 residues) Identified residue rG1 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue rC8 as a ending terminus. 8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat
converted successfully

--- Program pdb2gmx,
VERSION 4.5.5 Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1031

Fatal error: There is a dangling bond at at least one of the terminal ends
and the force field does not provide terminal entries or files. Edit a .n.tdb
and/or .c.tdb file. For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please
check the GROMACS website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---


When processing the corresponding structure from the pdb database (2IXZ)all
files are generated as expected. I tried to compare the de novo model with
the experimentally determined one but I cant find the problem(all terminal
residues seem to have the same amountof atoms when ignoring the hydrogen
atoms). I dont have a clue where to look next.

Anyone got a clueto solve this issue?



The most common issue is residue name.  Terminal nucleic acids are named, e.g., 
RG5 to indicate 5' terminus.  Similarly, RG is an internal residue and RG3 is a 
3' terminal residue.


-Justin

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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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Re: [gmx-users] Dangling bond at terminal end of RNA rosetta model

2012-12-26 Thread Mark Abraham
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Gert Peters gert.pet...@ugent.be wrote:

 Hi everybody,

 Im trying to use GROMACS for MD of a RNA model generated by Rosetta
 (FARFAR). As a test I try processing a modelledpdb file. When I prepare
 thetopology files (pdb2gmx -f test.pdb -ff amber99 -ignh
 ) from pdb I encounter following output :

 Sorting it all out...
 Opening force field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/**
 gromacs/top/amber99.ff/**aminoacids.hdb
 Opening force field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/**
 gromacs/top/amber99.ff/dna.hdb
 Opening force field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/**
 gromacs/top/amber99.ff/rna.hdb
 Opening force field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/**
 gromacs/top/amber99.ff/**aminoacids.n.tdb
 Opening force field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/**
 gromacs/top/amber99.ff/**aminoacids.c.tdb

 Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.12#
 Processing chain 1 'A' (165 atoms, 8 residues)
 Identified residue rG1 as a starting terminus.
 Identified residue rC8 as a ending terminus.
 8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully

 --**-
 Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.5
 Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1031

 Fatal error:
 There is a dangling bond at at least one of the terminal ends and the
 force field does not provide terminal entries or files. Edit a .n.tdb
 and/or .c.tdb file.
 For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
 website at 
 http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/Errorshttp://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
 --**-

 When processing the corresponding structure from the pdb database
 (2IXZ)all files are generated as expected. I tried to compare the de novo
 model with the experimentally determined one but I cant find the
 problem(all terminal residues seem to have the same amountof atoms when
 ignoring the hydrogen atoms). I dont have a clue where to look next.


AMBER parameterizes the terminal residues differently from the non-terminal
residues. See rna.rtp. That requires that the terminal residues have a
different residue name that pdb2gmx can match accordingly. With the
information we have, nobody can say why one of your input files works and
the other doesn't.

Mark
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