Re: [gmx-users] Decreasing MSD of ligand ?

2009-11-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:

Hi
The MSD decrease occurs in the long times.
The ligand has bounded to a protein.
How can the decrease happen?



Probably because the ligand, being bound to the protein, has its motion 
restricted by its interaction with the protein.  I don't see the purpose of 
measuring the MSD of a bound compound, since it probably shouldn't change much, 
anyway, if the ligand remains in the active site.  MSD is much more useful for 
measuring the movement of more freely-diffusible entities (solvents, lipids, etc).


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Decreasing MSD of ligand ?

2009-11-18 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
The MSD decrease occurs in the long times.
The ligand has bounded to a protein.
How can the decrease happen?


Thank you
Lin




Chih-Ying Lin wrote:
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> HI MSD = mean square displacement diffusion coefficient = d/dt (MSD) I
> simulate the protein and ligand system and then calculate the MSD of the
> ligand. Then, i drew the plot of the time evolution of the MSD. But the
> the MSD decreases as time for some period. I see nothing about my
> codings. Would you please tell me about any possible errors i made?

MSD can decrease due to insufficient sampling (time of the simulation,
number of
frames analyzed, etc).  Depending on what you define as "some period"
(during
the initial part of the simulation? the middle? the end?) the behavior may
or
may not be normal, but from the few details you provide, there's no way to
know.
 What do you hope to see in this analysis?  Will a ligand bound to a protein
really diffuse that much anyway?

-Justin

> Thank you Lin
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Re: [gmx-users] Decreasing MSD of ligand ?

2009-11-18 Thread Omer Markovitch
Is the decrease occurs in the long times? Omer.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 21:08, Chih-Ying Lin  wrote:

>
>
>
> HI MSD = mean square displacement diffusion coefficient = d/dt (MSD) I
> simulate the protein and ligand system and then calculate the MSD of the
> ligand. Then, i drew the plot of the time evolution of the MSD. But the the
> MSD decreases as time for some period. I see nothing about my codings. Would
> you please tell me about any possible errors i made? Thank you Lin
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [gmx-users] Decreasing MSD of ligand ?

2009-11-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:




HI MSD = mean square displacement diffusion coefficient = d/dt (MSD) I 
simulate the protein and ligand system and then calculate the MSD of the 
ligand. Then, i drew the plot of the time evolution of the MSD. But the 
the MSD decreases as time for some period. I see nothing about my 
codings. Would you please tell me about any possible errors i made? 


MSD can decrease due to insufficient sampling (time of the simulation, number of 
frames analyzed, etc).  Depending on what you define as "some period" (during 
the initial part of the simulation? the middle? the end?) the behavior may or 
may not be normal, but from the few details you provide, there's no way to know. 
 What do you hope to see in this analysis?  Will a ligand bound to a protein 
really diffuse that much anyway?


-Justin


Thank you Lin







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ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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[gmx-users] Decreasing MSD of ligand ?

2009-11-17 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
HI MSD = mean square displacement diffusion coefficient = d/dt (MSD) I
simulate the protein and ligand system and then calculate the MSD of the
ligand. Then, i drew the plot of the time evolution of the MSD. But the the
MSD decreases as time for some period. I see nothing about my codings. Would
you please tell me about any possible errors i made? Thank you Lin
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