[gmx-users] Density of the box

2011-01-13 Thread Kavyashree M
Thank you Tsjerk!

Actually I was not using any dummy atoms or united atoms
in this case. I was using a pdb file with just water atoms (1BP2).

Kindly excuse me I was not recieving any replys to my mail id
ka...@rishi.serc.iisc.ernet.in.
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[gmx-users] Density of the box

2011-01-10 Thread kavya
Dear Gromacs users,

I was trying to run a simulation using a protein of 123  aa long
and wanted to adjust the density to 993.04g/l so with the following
command I ran the editconf:

editconf -f conf.pdb -o box.pdb -bt cubic -d 0.8 -density 997.0479

Its output was as follows:

--
.
.
Read 1842 atoms
Volume: 115.734 nm^3, corresponds to roughly 52000 electrons
No velocities found
system size :  3.370  4.749  4.270 (nm)
diameter:  4.979   (nm)
center  :  1.646  1.395  2.422 (nm)
box vectors :  4.707  6.445  3.815 (nm)
box angles  :  90.00  90.00  90.00 (degrees)
box volume  : 115.73   (nm^3)
Volume  of input 115.734 (nm^3)
Massof input 42476.2 (a.m.u.)
Density of input 609.444 (g/l)
Scaling all box vectors by 0.848671
new system size :  2.860  4.030  3.624
shift   :  1.893  2.106  1.234 (nm)
new center  :  3.289  3.289  3.289 (nm)
new box vectors :  6.579  6.579  6.579 (nm)
new box angles  :  90.00  90.00  90.00 (degrees)
new box volume  : 284.70   (nm^3)

---
My doubt here is it says that the Mass of input is 42476.2 (a.m.u.),
but the mass of protein is 13795.4 Da (according to the protparam with
sequence input). I am not sure whether protparam takes into account
hydrogens. Even with the inclusion of hydrogens (885), the molecular
weight will still be 14686.49Da. So how is 42476.2 a.m.u. comes?

Thank you all in advance
MKS


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Re: [gmx-users] Density of the box

2011-01-10 Thread Mark Abraham

On 10/01/2011 7:59 PM, ka...@rishi.serc.iisc.ernet.in wrote:

Dear Gromacs users,

I was trying to run a simulation using a protein of 123  aa long
and wanted to adjust the density to 993.04g/l so with the following
command I ran the editconf:

editconf -f conf.pdb -o box.pdb -bt cubic -d 0.8 -density 997.0479

Its output was as follows:

--
.
.
Read 1842 atoms
Volume: 115.734 nm^3, corresponds to roughly 52000 electrons
No velocities found
 system size :  3.370  4.749  4.270 (nm)
 diameter:  4.979   (nm)
 center  :  1.646  1.395  2.422 (nm)
 box vectors :  4.707  6.445  3.815 (nm)
 box angles  :  90.00  90.00  90.00 (degrees)
 box volume  : 115.73   (nm^3)
Volume  of input 115.734 (nm^3)
Massof input 42476.2 (a.m.u.)
Density of input 609.444 (g/l)
Scaling all box vectors by 0.848671
new system size :  2.860  4.030  3.624
 shift   :  1.893  2.106  1.234 (nm)
new center  :  3.289  3.289  3.289 (nm)
new box vectors :  6.579  6.579  6.579 (nm)
new box angles  :  90.00  90.00  90.00 (degrees)
new box volume  : 284.70   (nm^3)

---
My doubt here is it says that the Mass of input is 42476.2 (a.m.u.),
but the mass of protein is 13795.4 Da (according to the protparam with
sequence input). I am not sure whether protparam takes into account
hydrogens. Even with the inclusion of hydrogens (885), the molecular
weight will still be 14686.49Da. So how is 42476.2 a.m.u. comes?


Hmm, that's the second post in a week reporting editconf giving an 
apparently spurious measurement of the mass. Sounds like it could be a 
bug. Thoughts, anyone?


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Density of the box

2011-01-10 Thread kavya


Sir,

   I am using Gromacs 4.0.7 version. Does this problem exits
in other older or newer versions? what is the density of water
that spc216 adds? If it is a fixed density, then i encountered
a problem -


I tried using 1 water molecule as a system (instead of protein), in a
cubic box with 0.8nm distance (-d), and filled it with spc216 water,
in this case the density it showed was 933.221g/l,


Output configuration contains 513 atoms in 171 residues
Volume : 5.48157 (nm^3)
Density: 933.221 (g/l)
Number of SOL molecules:171
-

but when I used the same system i.e water, with a cubic box of 1.0nm
distact from water (-d) and filled with spc216 water it gave a density
of 1001.85g/l,

--
Output configuration contains 1017 atoms in 339 residues
Volume : 10.1226 (nm^3)
Density: 1001.85 (g/l)
Number of SOL molecules:339
--

So does this trend indicate that the density increases with increase in
volume of the same system? and spc216 does not add water according to
a specific density?

With Regards
MKS

 Hmm, that's the second post in a week reporting editconf giving an
 apparently spurious measurement of the mass. Sounds like it could be a
 bug. Thoughts, anyone?

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Density of the box

2011-01-10 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi,

editconf needs to take the masses from a database file if not fed with
a run input file. It will probably miss out on some types of atoms or
get the masses wrong, especially with united atoms and/or dummies.
Probably the density would be correct giving a .tpr file for input.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM,  ka...@rishi.serc.iisc.ernet.in wrote:


 Sir,

   I am using Gromacs 4.0.7 version. Does this problem exits
 in other older or newer versions? what is the density of water
 that spc216 adds? If it is a fixed density, then i encountered
 a problem -


 I tried using 1 water molecule as a system (instead of protein), in a
 cubic box with 0.8nm distance (-d), and filled it with spc216 water,
 in this case the density it showed was 933.221g/l,

 
 Output configuration contains 513 atoms in 171 residues
 Volume                 :     5.48157 (nm^3)
 Density                :     933.221 (g/l)
 Number of SOL molecules:    171
 -

 but when I used the same system i.e water, with a cubic box of 1.0nm
 distact from water (-d) and filled with spc216 water it gave a density
 of 1001.85g/l,

 --
 Output configuration contains 1017 atoms in 339 residues
 Volume                 :     10.1226 (nm^3)
 Density                :     1001.85 (g/l)
 Number of SOL molecules:    339
 --

 So does this trend indicate that the density increases with increase in
 volume of the same system? and spc216 does not add water according to
 a specific density?

 With Regards
 MKS

 Hmm, that's the second post in a week reporting editconf giving an
 apparently spurious measurement of the mass. Sounds like it could be a
 bug. Thoughts, anyone?

 Mark
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