Re: [gmx-users] Desired density - genbox

2013-03-19 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 3/19/13 5:52 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

Thanks. So in this case no matter what density I will start with e.g.
480 kg/m3 presuming the force filed is correct I should get at given
conditions the density of interest?



If the force field has been parametrized to reproduce the density, then yes.

-Justin


On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:



On 3/18/13 6:14 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:


On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:




On 3/18/13 2:56 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:



Dear Gmx Users,

I am trying to obtain given density for my system for a given molecule
- its a cubic box of 5 nm in dimension.

I calculated that I need 850 molecules to get the density of 500 g/mol
In my box there is already 1 molecule so I try:

genbox -cp Box.pdb -ci molecule.pdb -nmol 849 -o BoxMol.pdb



Added 819 molecules (out of 849 requested)
Output configuration contains 9020 atoms in 820 residues
Volume : 125 (nm^3)
Density: 480.336 (g/l)
Number of SOL molecules:  0

How can I add 30 more molecules using gromacs? I want to avoid adding
it manually.



Use a larger box and equilibrate.



Thanks.
Larger box will need more molecules which is quite obvious so the same
problem occurs. I need a cubic box first with given fixed density and
then equilibrate it. Further step is to extend the box in one
dimension to get properties I want.
Shall manually add them then?



I think you missed the point of what I was saying.  You can use a larger
box, with 850 molecules inserted, and equilbrate under NPT (using isotropic
pressure coupling to guarantee the box stays cubic).  Provided the force
field model produces the density you want, that's all you need to do.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Desired density - genbox

2013-03-19 Thread Steven Neumann
Thanks. So in this case no matter what density I will start with e.g.
480 kg/m3 presuming the force filed is correct I should get at given
conditions the density of interest?

Steven

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:
>
>
> On 3/18/13 6:14 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/18/13 2:56 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:


 Dear Gmx Users,

 I am trying to obtain given density for my system for a given molecule
 - its a cubic box of 5 nm in dimension.

 I calculated that I need 850 molecules to get the density of 500 g/mol
 In my box there is already 1 molecule so I try:

 genbox -cp Box.pdb -ci molecule.pdb -nmol 849 -o BoxMol.pdb



 Added 819 molecules (out of 849 requested)
 Output configuration contains 9020 atoms in 820 residues
 Volume : 125 (nm^3)
 Density: 480.336 (g/l)
 Number of SOL molecules:  0

 How can I add 30 more molecules using gromacs? I want to avoid adding
 it manually.

>>>
>>> Use a larger box and equilibrate.
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Larger box will need more molecules which is quite obvious so the same
>> problem occurs. I need a cubic box first with given fixed density and
>> then equilibrate it. Further step is to extend the box in one
>> dimension to get properties I want.
>> Shall manually add them then?
>>
>
> I think you missed the point of what I was saying.  You can use a larger
> box, with 850 molecules inserted, and equilbrate under NPT (using isotropic
> pressure coupling to guarantee the box stays cubic).  Provided the force
> field model produces the density you want, that's all you need to do.
>
>
> -Justin
>
> --
> 
>
> Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
> Research Scientist
> Department of Biochemistry
> Virginia Tech
> Blacksburg, VA
> jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
> http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
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Re: [gmx-users] Desired density - genbox

2013-03-18 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 3/18/13 6:14 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:



On 3/18/13 2:56 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:


Dear Gmx Users,

I am trying to obtain given density for my system for a given molecule
- its a cubic box of 5 nm in dimension.

I calculated that I need 850 molecules to get the density of 500 g/mol
In my box there is already 1 molecule so I try:

genbox -cp Box.pdb -ci molecule.pdb -nmol 849 -o BoxMol.pdb



Added 819 molecules (out of 849 requested)
Output configuration contains 9020 atoms in 820 residues
Volume : 125 (nm^3)
Density: 480.336 (g/l)
Number of SOL molecules:  0

How can I add 30 more molecules using gromacs? I want to avoid adding
it manually.



Use a larger box and equilibrate.


Thanks.
Larger box will need more molecules which is quite obvious so the same
problem occurs. I need a cubic box first with given fixed density and
then equilibrate it. Further step is to extend the box in one
dimension to get properties I want.
Shall manually add them then?



I think you missed the point of what I was saying.  You can use a larger box, 
with 850 molecules inserted, and equilbrate under NPT (using isotropic pressure 
coupling to guarantee the box stays cubic).  Provided the force field model 
produces the density you want, that's all you need to do.


-Justin

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Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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Re: [gmx-users] Desired density - genbox

2013-03-18 Thread Steven Neumann
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:
>
>
> On 3/18/13 2:56 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:
>>
>> Dear Gmx Users,
>>
>> I am trying to obtain given density for my system for a given molecule
>> - its a cubic box of 5 nm in dimension.
>>
>> I calculated that I need 850 molecules to get the density of 500 g/mol
>> In my box there is already 1 molecule so I try:
>>
>> genbox -cp Box.pdb -ci molecule.pdb -nmol 849 -o BoxMol.pdb
>>
>>
>>
>> Added 819 molecules (out of 849 requested)
>> Output configuration contains 9020 atoms in 820 residues
>> Volume : 125 (nm^3)
>> Density: 480.336 (g/l)
>> Number of SOL molecules:  0
>>
>> How can I add 30 more molecules using gromacs? I want to avoid adding
>> it manually.
>>
>
> Use a larger box and equilibrate.

Thanks.
Larger box will need more molecules which is quite obvious so the same
problem occurs. I need a cubic box first with given fixed density and
then equilibrate it. Further step is to extend the box in one
dimension to get properties I want.
Shall manually add them then?


Steven
 All genbox tries to do is add molecules
> randomly, which is not a foolproof process.  If the force field parameters
> indeed produce the correct density, you should be able to produce it rather
> quickly.
>
> -Justin
>
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> 
>
> Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
> Research Scientist
> Department of Biochemistry
> Virginia Tech
> Blacksburg, VA
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Re: [gmx-users] Desired density - genbox

2013-03-18 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 3/18/13 2:56 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:

Dear Gmx Users,

I am trying to obtain given density for my system for a given molecule
- its a cubic box of 5 nm in dimension.

I calculated that I need 850 molecules to get the density of 500 g/mol
In my box there is already 1 molecule so I try:

genbox -cp Box.pdb -ci molecule.pdb -nmol 849 -o BoxMol.pdb



Added 819 molecules (out of 849 requested)
Output configuration contains 9020 atoms in 820 residues
Volume : 125 (nm^3)
Density: 480.336 (g/l)
Number of SOL molecules:  0

How can I add 30 more molecules using gromacs? I want to avoid adding
it manually.



Use a larger box and equilibrate.  All genbox tries to do is add molecules 
randomly, which is not a foolproof process.  If the force field parameters 
indeed produce the correct density, you should be able to produce it rather quickly.


-Justin

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Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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