Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Andrea Muntean
Strange enough, those dihedrals are there, but the dihedral between
atoms 2 9 10 and 17 is missing (in the main chain), altough defined in
the PS residue (as -CH CH2 CH +CH2). I am still clueless...


Greetings,
Andrea


2008/10/27 Justin A. Lemkul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Well, there's no real problem, per se.  Everything that you've given pdb2gmx
> is in the topology; the issue is that you haven't specified any parameters
> for those dihedrals:
>
> CH  CB  CG1 CG2
> CH  CB  CG5 CG4
>
> 2 3 4 5 1
> 2 3 8 7 1
>
> Makes sense that they'd be missing.  If you're dealing with polystyrene,
> maybe consider basing the dihedrals off of those contained in the PHE
> sidechain in the Gromos force field you appear to be using.
>
> -Justin
>
> Andrea Muntean wrote:
>>
>> Here are the .rtp entries:
>>
>>
>> [PS1]
>> [atoms]
>> CH3 CH3 0   0
>> CH  CH1 0   0
>> CB  C   0   0
>> CG1 CR1 0   0
>> CG2 CR1 0   0
>> CG3 CR1 0   0
>> CG4 CR1 0   0
>> CG5 CR1 0   0
>>
>> [bonds]
>> CH3 CH  gb_26
>> CH  CB  gb_26
>> CB  CG1 gb_15
>> CG1 CG2 gb_15
>> CG2 CG3 gb_15
>> CG3 CG4 gb_15
>> CG4 CG5 gb_15
>> CG5 CB  gb_15
>> CH  +CH2gb_26
>>
>> [angles]
>> ;109,5 angle
>> CH3 CH  +CH2ga_12
>> CH3 CH  CB  ga_12
>> CB  CH  +CH2ga_12
>> ;120 angle
>> CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
>> CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
>> CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
>> CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
>> CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
>> CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
>> CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
>> CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26
>>
>> [impropers]
>> ;keep the planarity of the ring
>> CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
>> CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
>> CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
>> CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
>> CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
>> CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
>> ;around CB
>> CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
>> CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
>> CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
>> ;around CH
>> CH  CB  +CH2CH3 gi_1
>> CH  +CH2CH3 CB  gi_1
>> CH  CH3 CB  +CH2gi_1
>>
>> [dihedrals]
>> ;in the chain - 3-fold (n=3)
>> CH3 CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
>> CB  CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
>> ;around CH-CB - 2-fold (n=2)
>> CH3 CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
>> CH3 CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
>> +CH2CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
>> +CH2CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
>> ;around CB-CG - 2-fold?,do we need them?
>> CH  CB  CG1 CG2
>> CH  CB  CG5 CG4
>>
>>
>> [PS]
>> [atoms]
>> CH2 CH2 0   0
>> CH  CH1 0   0
>> CB  C   0   0
>> CG1 CR1 0   0
>> CG2 CR1 0   0
>> CG3 CR1 0   0
>> CG4 CR1 0   0
>> CG5 CR1 0   0
>>
>> [bonds]
>> -CH CH2 gb_26
>> CH2 CH  gb_26
>> CH  CB  gb_26
>> CB  CG1 gb_15
>> CG1 CG2 gb_15
>> CG2 CG3 gb_15
>> CG3 CG4 gb_15
>> CG4 CG5 gb_15
>> CG5 CB  gb_15
>> CH  +CH2gb_26
>>
>> [angles]
>> ;109,5 angle
>> -CH CH2 CH  ga_12
>> CH2 CH  +CH2ga_12
>> CH2 CH  CB  ga_12
>> CB  CH  +CH2ga_12
>> ;120 angle
>> CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
>> CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
>> CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
>> CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
>> CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
>> CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
>> CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
>> CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26
>>
>> [impropers]
>> ;keep the planarity of the ring
>> CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
>> CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
>> CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
>> CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
>> CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
>> CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
>> ;around CB
>> CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
>> CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
>> CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
>> ;around CH
>> CH  CB  +CH2CH2 gi_1
>> CH  +CH2CH2 CB  gi_1
>> CH  CH2 CB  +CH2gi_1
>>
>> [dihedrals]
>> ;in the chain - 3-fold
>> CH2 CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
>> CB  CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
>> -CH CH2 CH  CB  gd_16
>> -CH CH2 CH  +CH2gd_16
>> ;around CH-CB - 2-fold
>> CH2 CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
>> CH2 CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
>> +CH2CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
>> +CH2CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
>> ;around CB-CG - 2-fold?,do we need them?
>> CH  CB  CG1 CG2
>> CH  CB  CG5 CG4
>>
>> [ PSN ]
>> [atoms]
>> CH2 CH2 0   0
>> CH  CH1 0   0
>> CB  C   0   0
>> CG1 CR1 0   0
>> CG2 CR1 0   0
>> CG3 CR1 0   0
>> CG4 CR1 0   0
>

Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Andrea Muntean
Sorry,

once again for everybody in the list:

Here are the .rtp entries:


[PS1]
[atoms]
CH3 CH3 0   0
CH  CH1 0   0
CB  C   0   0
CG1 CR1 0   0
CG2 CR1 0   0
CG3 CR1 0   0
CG4 CR1 0   0
CG5 CR1 0   0

[bonds]
CH3 CH  gb_26
CH  CB  gb_26
CB  CG1 gb_15
CG1 CG2 gb_15
CG2 CG3 gb_15
CG3 CG4 gb_15
CG4 CG5 gb_15
CG5 CB  gb_15
CH  +CH2gb_26

[angles]
;109,5 angle
CH3 CH  +CH2ga_12
CH3 CH  CB  ga_12
CB  CH  +CH2ga_12
;120 angle
CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

[impropers]
;keep the planarity of the ring
CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
;around CB
CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
;around CH
CH  CB  +CH2CH3 gi_1
CH  +CH2CH3 CB  gi_1
CH  CH3 CB  +CH2gi_1

[dihedrals]
;in the chain - 3-fold (n=3)
CH3 CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
CB  CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
;around CH-CB - 2-fold (n=2)
CH3 CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
CH3 CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
;around CB-CG - 2-fold?,do we need them?
CH  CB  CG1 CG2
CH  CB  CG5 CG4


[PS]
[atoms]
CH2 CH2 0   0
CH  CH1 0   0
CB  C   0   0
CG1 CR1 0   0
CG2 CR1 0   0
CG3 CR1 0   0
CG4 CR1 0   0
CG5 CR1 0   0

[bonds]
-CH CH2 gb_26
CH2 CH  gb_26
CH  CB  gb_26
CB  CG1 gb_15
CG1 CG2 gb_15
CG2 CG3 gb_15
CG3 CG4 gb_15
CG4 CG5 gb_15
CG5 CB  gb_15
CH  +CH2gb_26

[angles]
;109,5 angle
-CH CH2 CH  ga_12
CH2 CH  +CH2ga_12
CH2 CH  CB  ga_12
CB  CH  +CH2ga_12
;120 angle
CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

[impropers]
;keep the planarity of the ring
CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
;around CB
CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
;around CH
CH  CB  +CH2CH2 gi_1
CH  +CH2CH2 CB  gi_1
CH  CH2 CB  +CH2gi_1

[dihedrals]
;in the chain - 3-fold
CH2 CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
CB  CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
-CH CH2 CH  CB  gd_16
-CH CH2 CH  +CH2gd_16
;around CH-CB - 2-fold
CH2 CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
CH2 CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
;around CB-CG - 2-fold?,do we need them?
CH  CB  CG1 CG2
CH  CB  CG5 CG4

[ PSN ]
[atoms]
CH2 CH2 0   0
CH  CH1 0   0
CB  C   0   0
CG1 CR1 0   0
CG2 CR1 0   0
CG3 CR1 0   0
CG4 CR1 0   0
CG5 CR1 0   0
CH3 CH3 0   0

[bonds]
-CH CH2 gb_26
CH2 CH  gb_26
CH  CB  gb_26
CB  CG1 gb_15
CG1 CG2 gb_15
CG2 CG3 gb_15
CG3 CG4 gb_15
CG4 CG5 gb_15
CG5 CB  gb_15
CH  CH3 gb_26

[angles]
-CH CH2 CH  ga_12
CH2 CH  CH3 ga_12
CH2 CH  CB  ga_12
CB  CH  CH3 ga_12
CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

[impropers]
;keep the planarity of the ring
CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
;around CB
CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
;around CH
CH  CB  CH3CH2 gi_1
CH  CH3 CH2CB  gi_1
CH  CH2 CB CH3 gi_1

[dihedrals]
;in the chain - 3-fold (n=3)
-CH CH2   

Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Well, there's no real problem, per se.  Everything that you've given pdb2gmx is 
in the topology; the issue is that you haven't specified any parameters for 
those dihedrals:


CH  CB  CG1 CG2
CH  CB  CG5 CG4

2 3 4 5 1
2 3 8 7 1

Makes sense that they'd be missing.  If you're dealing with polystyrene, maybe 
consider basing the dihedrals off of those contained in the PHE sidechain in the 
Gromos force field you appear to be using.


-Justin

Andrea Muntean wrote:

Here are the .rtp entries:


[PS1]
[atoms]
CH3 CH3 0   0
CH  CH1 0   0
CB  C   0   0
CG1 CR1 0   0
CG2 CR1 0   0
CG3 CR1 0   0
CG4 CR1 0   0
CG5 CR1 0   0

[bonds]
CH3 CH  gb_26
CH  CB  gb_26
CB  CG1 gb_15
CG1 CG2 gb_15
CG2 CG3 gb_15
CG3 CG4 gb_15
CG4 CG5 gb_15
CG5 CB  gb_15
CH  +CH2gb_26

[angles]
;109,5 angle
CH3 CH  +CH2ga_12
CH3 CH  CB  ga_12
CB  CH  +CH2ga_12
;120 angle
CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

[impropers]
;keep the planarity of the ring
CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
;around CB
CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
;around CH
CH  CB  +CH2CH3 gi_1
CH  +CH2CH3 CB  gi_1
CH  CH3 CB  +CH2gi_1

[dihedrals]
;in the chain - 3-fold (n=3)
CH3 CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
CB  CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
;around CH-CB - 2-fold (n=2)
CH3 CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
CH3 CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
;around CB-CG - 2-fold?,do we need them?
CH  CB  CG1 CG2
CH  CB  CG5 CG4


[PS]
[atoms]
CH2 CH2 0   0
CH  CH1 0   0
CB  C   0   0
CG1 CR1 0   0
CG2 CR1 0   0
CG3 CR1 0   0
CG4 CR1 0   0
CG5 CR1 0   0

[bonds]
-CH CH2 gb_26
CH2 CH  gb_26
CH  CB  gb_26
CB  CG1 gb_15
CG1 CG2 gb_15
CG2 CG3 gb_15
CG3 CG4 gb_15
CG4 CG5 gb_15
CG5 CB  gb_15
CH  +CH2gb_26

[angles]
;109,5 angle
-CH CH2 CH  ga_12
CH2 CH  +CH2ga_12
CH2 CH  CB  ga_12
CB  CH  +CH2ga_12
;120 angle
CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

[impropers]
;keep the planarity of the ring
CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
;around CB
CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
;around CH
CH  CB  +CH2CH2 gi_1
CH  +CH2CH2 CB  gi_1
CH  CH2 CB  +CH2gi_1

[dihedrals]
;in the chain - 3-fold
CH2 CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
CB  CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
-CH CH2 CH  CB  gd_16
-CH CH2 CH  +CH2gd_16
;around CH-CB - 2-fold
CH2 CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
CH2 CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
;around CB-CG - 2-fold?,do we need them?
CH  CB  CG1 CG2
CH  CB  CG5 CG4

[ PSN ]
[atoms]
CH2 CH2 0   0
CH  CH1 0   0
CB  C   0   0
CG1 CR1 0   0
CG2 CR1 0   0
CG3 CR1 0   0
CG4 CR1 0   0
CG5 CR1 0   0
CH3 CH3 0   0

[bonds]
-CH CH2 gb_26
CH2 CH  gb_26
CH  CB  gb_26
CB  CG1 gb_15
CG1 CG2 gb_15
CG2 CG3 gb_15
CG3 CG4 gb_15
CG4 CG5 gb_15
CG5 CB  gb_15
CH  CH3 gb_26

[angles]
-CH CH2 CH  ga_12
CH2 CH  CH3 ga_12
CH2 CH  CB  ga_12
CB  CH  CH3 ga_12
CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

[impropers]
;keep the planarity of the ring
CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
CG1

Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Andrea Muntean wrote:

Hi Justin,
 
here are the relevant parts, as pdf files. I miss a dihedral between the 
atoms 2, 9, 10 and 17, which corresponds to the

-CH   CH2   CH   +CH2 dihedral in the PS residue in the RTP entry.
 


Please send them as plain text to the list so everyone can see them without 
having to download the files (and so they can be archived for reference).


-Justin

For the trimer I should have 26 dihedrals, but in the TOP file I get 
only 25 (I mean only the proper dihedrals, the impropers are OK).
 
Thanks for your help.
 
Andrea
 

 


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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Andrea Muntean
Hi Justin,

here are the relevant parts, as pdf files. I miss a dihedral between the
atoms 2, 9, 10 and 17, which corresponds to the
-CH   CH2   CH   +CH2 dihedral in the PS residue in the RTP entry.

For the trimer I should have 26 dihedrals, but in the TOP file I get only 25
(I mean only the proper dihedrals, the impropers are OK).

Thanks for your help.

Andrea


RTP.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


TrimerTOP.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Andrea Muntean wrote:

Hi all,
 
I defined my residues for Polystyrene (first, last and inner monomers), 
with the coresponding bonds, angles, dihedrals and impropers, including 
also the conectivities (as + and - atoms of the next or previous 
residue). Pdb2gmx runs without error or warning, but it counts less 
dihedrals then I would expect. I did run the same for dimer and trimer. 
For dimer is ok, for trimer starts to count 1 dihedral less, and for the 
chain with 80 monomers corespondingly 78 dihedrals less, which means 
that the error should be in the inner residue. I checked many times, but 
the dihedral which is missing in the .top file is defined in the .rtp. 
So I have really no clue what is wrong. I runned pdb2gmx also in debug 
mode, but the log file seem ok to me.
 
Please give me a good idea :o)
 


Without seeing the .rtp entry and the relevant portion of the resulting .top, 
it's hard to say.  Can you post those pieces of information?


-Justin


Thanks in advance.
Andrea




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[gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Andrea Muntean
Hi all,

I defined my residues for Polystyrene (first, last and inner monomers), with
the coresponding bonds, angles, dihedrals and impropers, including also the
conectivities (as + and - atoms of the next or previous residue). Pdb2gmx
runs without error or warning, but it counts less dihedrals then I would
expect. I did run the same for dimer and trimer. For dimer is ok, for trimer
starts to count 1 dihedral less, and for the chain with 80 monomers
corespondingly 78 dihedrals less, which means that the error should be in
the inner residue. I checked many times, but the dihedral which is missing
in the .top file is defined in the .rtp. So I have really no clue what is
wrong. I runned pdb2gmx also in debug mode, but the log file seem ok to me.

Please give me a good idea :o)

Thanks in advance.
Andrea
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