Re: [gmx-users] Domain Motion = How do get the rotational axis from eigenvectors ?

2011-05-28 Thread XAvier Periole

You should a have good read at the original papers. They are mentioned on the 
web site. They will answer all your questions. 

On May 28, 2011, at 6:03, Chih-Ying Lin chihying2...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Hi
 I want to get the rotational axis about the protein domain motion. 
 From the DynDom website = DynDom is a program to determine domains, hinge 
 axes and hinge bending residues in proteins where two conformations are 
 available.
 
 Questions: 
 1. Do the hinge axes represent the rotational axis about the protein domain 
 motion ? 
 2. From its User created database, domains and hinge bending residues, 
 rotation angles and translation are created. 
 = The rotation angles must be defined as the angle of rotation between 
 two domains based on the hinge axes, right ?
 = The vector of the hinge axes is not given by DynDom website, or I did 
 not find it ???
 = Hinge axes could be obtained from hinge bending axes residues, right 
   If so, How 
 = How can I get the vector of the hinge axes with the results from 
 DynDom ???
 = I found some papers drawing the hinge axes, can Gromacs help me find 
 and draw the hinge axes 
 = From User created database in the DynDom website, it is showing 
 Sequence. What does sequence represent ???
 3. Should I install the program of DynDom and then g_dyndom can be functioned 
 ??? 
 (we need to install DSSP before using do_dssp) 
 4. From Gromacs manual = The purpose of this program (g_dyndom) is to 
 interpolate and extrapolate the rotation as found by DynDom. 
What does it mean to interpolate and extrapolate the rotation as found by 
 DynDom ?
 
 
 Thank you
 Lin
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Hi
 I want to protein's domain motion.
 I use   g_covarandg_anaeig  to get the eigenvectors.
 How can i get the rotational axis of which protein do its domain motion from
 those eigenvectors?
 
 I found the papers and the authors plot its rotational axis of domain
 motion.
 How did they make it ?
 
 
 Thank you
 Lin
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 Hi Lin,
 
 You don't get such axes directly from covariance analysis. If you want
 to know which rotations are associated with a certain eigenvector, you
 have to run a routine like dyndom (http://fizz.cmp.uea.ac.uk/dyndom/)
 on the extreme projections of your trajectory onto an eigenvector.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Tsjerk
 
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[gmx-users] Domain Motion = How do get the rotational axis from eigenvectors ?

2011-05-27 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
I want to get the rotational axis about the protein domain motion.
*From the DynDom website = DynDom* is a program to determine domains,
hinge axes and hinge bending residues in proteins where two conformations
are available.

Questions:
1. Do the hinge axes represent the rotational axis about the protein domain
motion ?
2. From its User created database, domains and hinge bending residues,
rotation angles and translation are created.
= The rotation angles must be defined as the angle of rotation between
two domains based on the hinge axes, right ?
= The vector of the hinge axes is not given by DynDom website, or I did
not find it ???
= Hinge axes could be obtained from hinge bending axes residues, right
  If so, How 
= How can I get the vector of the hinge axes with the results from
DynDom ???
= I found some papers drawing the hinge axes, can Gromacs help me find
and draw the hinge axes 
= From User created database in the DynDom website, it is showing
Sequence. What does sequence represent ???
3. Should I install the program of DynDom and then g_dyndom can be
functioned ???
(we need to install DSSP before using do_dssp)
4. From Gromacs manual = The purpose of this program (g_dyndom) is to
interpolate and extrapolate the rotation as found by DynDom.
   What does it mean to interpolate and extrapolate the rotation as found
by DynDom ?


Thank you
Lin






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Hi
I want to protein's domain motion.
I use   g_covarandg_anaeig  to get the eigenvectors.
How can i get the rotational axis of which protein do its domain motion from
those eigenvectors?

I found the papers and the authors plot its rotational axis of domain
motion.
How did they make it ?


Thank you
Lin
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Hi Lin,

You don't get such axes directly from covariance analysis. If you want
to know which rotations are associated with a certain eigenvector, you
have to run a routine like dyndom (http://fizz.cmp.uea.ac.uk/dyndom/)
on the extreme projections of your trajectory onto an eigenvector.

Cheers,

Tsjerk
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[gmx-users] Domain Motion = How do get the rotational axis from eigenvectors ?

2011-05-26 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
I want to protein's domain motion.
I use   g_covarandg_anaeig  to get the eigenvectors.
How can i get the rotational axis of which protein do its domain motion from
those eigenvectors?

I found the papers and the authors plot its rotational axis of domain
motion.
How did they make it ?


Thank you
Lin
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Re: [gmx-users] Domain Motion = How do get the rotational axis from eigenvectors ?

2011-05-26 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Lin,

You don't get such axes directly from covariance analysis. If you want
to know which rotations are associated with a certain eigenvector, you
have to run a routine like dyndom (http://fizz.cmp.uea.ac.uk/dyndom/)
on the extreme projections of your trajectory onto an eigenvector.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Chih-Ying Lin chihying2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 I want to protein's domain motion.
 I use   g_covar    and    g_anaeig  to get the eigenvectors.
 How can i get the rotational axis of which protein do its domain motion from
 those eigenvectors?
 I found the papers and the authors plot its rotational axis of domain
 motion.
 How did they make it ?

 Thank you
 Lin
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