[gmx-users] Energies in simulation and rerun using different core counts

2012-09-07 Thread Richard Broadbent

Dear All,

I've been having some issues with energies with gromacs running on 
various core counts for a 7469 polymer in solvent system, constraining 
all bonds and running with a 2fs time step. I used PME-shift (1.05nm, 
1.10nm), and a shift with the same parameters for the VdW, I am using 
the OPLS-AA force field with fourierspacing  = 0.10. and the md-vv 
integrator.


I am running gromacs 4.5.5 compiled from the tarball on gromacs.org

To try and track it down I ran a 100ps  NVE simulation outputting 
coordinates and velocities every 1ps. I then used the trr trajectory 
file and ran:


$ mdrun_d -s nve_short.tpr -rerun reference.trr  -deffnm 8_cores -reprod 
-nt 8
$ mdrun_d -s nve_short.tpr -rerun reference.trr  -deffnm 4_cores -reprod 
-nt 4
$ mdrun_d -s nve_short.tpr -rerun reference.trr  -deffnm 1_cores -reprod 
-nt 1


then:

$  g_energy_d -f 8_cores.edr -o 8_cores.xvg << EOF
10
11
12
13
14
15
EOF

etc.
Where nve_short.tpr is the input file used for the original simulation 
and reference.trr is the trajectory it produced (I did not output forces 
into this which was an oversight).


These were run on my machine a quad core hyper-threaded intel xeon. I 
also used performed the rerun on our local cluster on 12, 24, and 36 
cores (dual 6 core intel xeon nodes with infiniband interconnects)


The resulting energy files are significantly different energies for these
snapshots summarised in this table:

number of cores,  Potential Energy,Standard Deviation

reference 7912.74479607 180.525445863
1_cores9635.92644669 180.525445891
4_cores1061.8467459 244.14154375
8_cores  776.470114871 208.368028756
12_cores374.243502525 204.012539953
24_cores667.44876102 502.041766722
36_cores616.93105205 476.190500738

(reference is the energy extracted from the original simulation run on a 
12 core node)


The large variation in standard deviation means that these energies are 
not simply shifted but behaving differently which is apparent from a 
plot of the potential energies.


has anyone else noticed any sort of inconsistency? Does anyone have any 
advice about what might cause this? Am I doing anything stupid?


Thanks,

Richard




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RE: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation

2009-06-08 Thread Payman Pirzadeh
Well, I tried to equilibrate the system, and I think the program has
included all the distortion that the system had been through. When I checked
the trajectory, the box was highly distorted as the simulation started, then
returned to its cubic shape. Also, I am a bit confused by the word
"strange". Well, based on manual the rvdw>rlist and it is. Also, authors in
the paper have tested U with various cutoff radii from 8-11A. The results
were very close! To make sure we are on the same page, the paper address is
J. Chem. Phys., Vol118, No.16 pp7401 (2003).

Payman

-Original Message-
From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org]
On Behalf Of David van der Spoel
Sent: June 8, 2009 11:58 AM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation

Payman Pirzadeh wrote:
> Well, when I set the box, I used 'editconf' command to rescale the box to
> have the right density which was ~997. After simulation, I got the
> following:
> 
> Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift
> Tot-Drift
>

> ---
> Density (SI)956.765150.266130.596   0.257477
> 257.477

The RMSD is very large. Are you sure this is in equilibrium? It could be 
that your box is exploding. Please check as well that the strange twin 
range cut-off that you are using is what the original authors used.
> 
> 
> 
> Payman
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org]
> On Behalf Of David van der Spoel
> Sent: June 8, 2009 11:29 AM
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation
> 
> Payman Pirzadeh wrote:
>> Here is the content of .itp file which I developed:
>>
>> ; This is an itp file to describe water's six-site model by H. Nada and
> J.P.
>> J. M. Van der Eerden, J. Chem. Phys. Vol.118, no.16, pp7401-7413 (2003)
>> ; This model is a combination of TIP4P and TIP5P. It has three LJ sites
> and
>> 3 Coulomb sites
>> ; O-H bond length is 0.980A, HOH angle is 108.00degrees, LOL angle is
> 111.00
>> degrees, O-M and O-L are about 0.230A and 0.8892A respectively
>>
>> [ defaults ]
>> ; non-bondedtypecombrulegenpairsFudgeLJ
>> FudgeQQ N
>> 1   2   NO
>>
>> [ atomtypes ]
>> ;name   masscharge  ptype   c6  c12
>> OW  15.9994 0.0 A   0.3115  0.714845562
>> HW  1.00800 0.477   A   0.0673  0.11541
>> MW  0.000   -0.866  D   0.000.00
>> LW  0.00-0.044  D   0.000.00
>>
>> [ moleculetype ]
>> ;molnamenrexcl
>> SOL 1
>>
>> [ atoms ]
>> ; nratomtyperesnr   residuename atomcgnrcharge
>> 1   OW  1   SOL OW  1   0.0
>> 2   HW  1   SOL HW1 1   0.477
>> 3   HW  1   SOL HW2 1   0.477
>> 4   MW  1   SOL MW  1   -0.866
>> 5   LW  1   SOL LP1 1   -0.044
>> 6   LW  1   SOL LP2 1   -0.044
>>
>> [ settles ]
>> ; OWfunctiondoh dhh
>> 1   1   0.0980  0.15856
>>
>> [ dummies3 ]
>> ; These set of parameters are for M site which can be easily calculated
>> using TIP4P calculations from tip4p.itp
>> ; So, it will be described as dummy site 3: r(v)= r(i) + a*(r(i)-r(j)) +
>> b*(r(i)-r(k))
>> ; const = |OH|/{|OH|*cos(HOH/2)} => Due to vector algebra a=b=const/2.
>> Remember that OM is in the same direction of OH bonds.
>> ; Remember this site is in the same plane of OH bonds; so, its function 1
>> ;
>> ; site  fromfunctiona   b
>> 4   1  2  3 1   0.199642536 0.199642536
>>
>> ; Now we define the position of L sites which can be obtained from
> tip5p.itp
>> ; So, it will be described as dummy site 3out: r(v) = r(i) +
a*(r(i)-r(j))
> +
>> b*(r(i)-r(k)) + c*(r(ij)Xr(ik))
>> ; const1 = {|OL|*cos(LOL/2)}/{|OH|*cos(HOH/2)} => Due to vector algebra
>> |a|=|b|=const/2. since the lone pairs are in opposite direction of OH
> bonds,
>> a minus sign is added. This part is similar to M site.
>> ; const2 = {|OL|*sin(LOL/2)}/{|OH|*|OH|*sin(HOH)} => The denominator is
> the
>> magnitude of vector product of OH bonds.
>> ; This sites are tetrahedral sites; 

Re: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation

2009-06-08 Thread David van der Spoel

Payman Pirzadeh wrote:

Well, when I set the box, I used 'editconf' command to rescale the box to
have the right density which was ~997. After simulation, I got the
following:

Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift
Tot-Drift

---
Density (SI)956.765150.266130.596   0.257477
257.477


The RMSD is very large. Are you sure this is in equilibrium? It could be 
that your box is exploding. Please check as well that the strange twin 
range cut-off that you are using is what the original authors used.




Payman

-Original Message-
From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org]
On Behalf Of David van der Spoel
Sent: June 8, 2009 11:29 AM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation

Payman Pirzadeh wrote:

Here is the content of .itp file which I developed:

; This is an itp file to describe water's six-site model by H. Nada and

J.P.

J. M. Van der Eerden, J. Chem. Phys. Vol.118, no.16, pp7401-7413 (2003)
; This model is a combination of TIP4P and TIP5P. It has three LJ sites

and

3 Coulomb sites
; O-H bond length is 0.980A, HOH angle is 108.00degrees, LOL angle is

111.00

degrees, O-M and O-L are about 0.230A and 0.8892A respectively

[ defaults ]
; non-bondedtypecombrulegenpairsFudgeLJ
FudgeQQ N
1   2   NO

[ atomtypes ]
;name   masscharge  ptype   c6  c12
OW  15.9994 0.0 A   0.3115  0.714845562
HW  1.00800 0.477   A   0.0673  0.11541
MW  0.000   -0.866  D   0.000.00
LW  0.00-0.044  D   0.000.00

[ moleculetype ]
;molnamenrexcl
SOL 1

[ atoms ]
; nratomtyperesnr   residuename atomcgnrcharge
1   OW  1   SOL OW  1   0.0
2   HW  1   SOL HW1 1   0.477
3   HW  1   SOL HW2 1   0.477
4   MW  1   SOL MW  1   -0.866
5   LW  1   SOL LP1 1   -0.044
6   LW  1   SOL LP2 1   -0.044

[ settles ]
; OWfunctiondoh dhh
1   1   0.0980  0.15856

[ dummies3 ]
; These set of parameters are for M site which can be easily calculated
using TIP4P calculations from tip4p.itp
; So, it will be described as dummy site 3: r(v)= r(i) + a*(r(i)-r(j)) +
b*(r(i)-r(k))
; const = |OH|/{|OH|*cos(HOH/2)} => Due to vector algebra a=b=const/2.
Remember that OM is in the same direction of OH bonds.
; Remember this site is in the same plane of OH bonds; so, its function 1
;
; site  fromfunctiona   b
4   1  2  3 1   0.199642536 0.199642536

; Now we define the position of L sites which can be obtained from

tip5p.itp

; So, it will be described as dummy site 3out: r(v) = r(i) + a*(r(i)-r(j))

+

b*(r(i)-r(k)) + c*(r(ij)Xr(ik))
; const1 = {|OL|*cos(LOL/2)}/{|OH|*cos(HOH/2)} => Due to vector algebra
|a|=|b|=const/2. since the lone pairs are in opposite direction of OH

bonds,

a minus sign is added. This part is similar to M site.
; const2 = {|OL|*sin(LOL/2)}/{|OH|*|OH|*sin(HOH)} => The denominator is

the

magnitude of vector product of OH bonds.
; This sites are tetrahedral sites; so, its function 4
;
; site  fromfunctiona   b   c
5   1  2  3 4   -0.437172388-0.437172388
8.022961206
6   1  2  3 4   -0.437172388-0.437172388
-8.022961206

[ exclusions ]
1   2   3   4   5   6
2   1   3   4   5   6
3   1   2   4   5   6
4   1   2   3   5   6
5   1   2   3   4   6
6   1   2   3   4   5


And here is the mdp file which I used for the simulation run:
cpp  = cpp
include  = -I../top
define   =

; Run control

integrator   = md
dt   = 0.001   ;1 fs
nsteps   = 100 ;10 ns
comm_mode= linear
nstcomm  = 1

;Output control

nstxout  = 5000
nstlog   = 5000
nstenergy= 5000
nstxtcout= 1000
xtc_grps =
energygrps   =

; Neighbour Searching

nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
rlist= 0.9

; Electrostatistics

coulombtype  = PME
rcoulomb = 0.9
epsilon_r= 1

; Vdw

vdwtype  = cut-off
rvdw = 1.2
DispCorr = EnerPres

;Ewald

fourierspacing  = 0.12
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol  = 1e-6
optimize_fft= yes

; Temperature coupling

tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = System
tau_t= 0.1
ref_t= 300

; P

RE: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation

2009-06-08 Thread Payman Pirzadeh
Well, when I set the box, I used 'editconf' command to rescale the box to
have the right density which was ~997. After simulation, I got the
following:

Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift
Tot-Drift

---
Density (SI)956.765150.266130.596   0.257477
257.477



Payman

-Original Message-
From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org]
On Behalf Of David van der Spoel
Sent: June 8, 2009 11:29 AM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation

Payman Pirzadeh wrote:
> Here is the content of .itp file which I developed:
> 
> ; This is an itp file to describe water's six-site model by H. Nada and
J.P.
> J. M. Van der Eerden, J. Chem. Phys. Vol.118, no.16, pp7401-7413 (2003)
> ; This model is a combination of TIP4P and TIP5P. It has three LJ sites
and
> 3 Coulomb sites
> ; O-H bond length is 0.980A, HOH angle is 108.00degrees, LOL angle is
111.00
> degrees, O-M and O-L are about 0.230A and 0.8892A respectively
> 
> [ defaults ]
> ; non-bondedtypecombrulegenpairsFudgeLJ
> FudgeQQ N
> 1   2   NO
> 
> [ atomtypes ]
> ;name   masscharge  ptype   c6  c12
> OW  15.9994 0.0 A   0.3115  0.714845562
> HW  1.00800 0.477   A   0.0673  0.11541
> MW  0.000   -0.866  D   0.000.00
> LW  0.00-0.044  D   0.000.00
> 
> [ moleculetype ]
> ;molnamenrexcl
> SOL 1
> 
> [ atoms ]
> ; nratomtyperesnr   residuename atomcgnrcharge
> 1   OW  1   SOL OW  1   0.0
> 2   HW  1   SOL HW1 1   0.477
> 3   HW  1   SOL HW2 1   0.477
> 4   MW  1   SOL MW  1   -0.866
> 5   LW  1   SOL LP1 1   -0.044
> 6   LW  1   SOL LP2 1   -0.044
> 
> [ settles ]
> ; OWfunctiondoh dhh
> 1   1   0.0980  0.15856
> 
> [ dummies3 ]
> ; These set of parameters are for M site which can be easily calculated
> using TIP4P calculations from tip4p.itp
> ; So, it will be described as dummy site 3: r(v)= r(i) + a*(r(i)-r(j)) +
> b*(r(i)-r(k))
> ; const = |OH|/{|OH|*cos(HOH/2)} => Due to vector algebra a=b=const/2.
> Remember that OM is in the same direction of OH bonds.
> ; Remember this site is in the same plane of OH bonds; so, its function 1
> ;
> ; site  fromfunctiona   b
> 4   1  2  3 1   0.199642536 0.199642536
> 
> ; Now we define the position of L sites which can be obtained from
tip5p.itp
> ; So, it will be described as dummy site 3out: r(v) = r(i) + a*(r(i)-r(j))
+
> b*(r(i)-r(k)) + c*(r(ij)Xr(ik))
> ; const1 = {|OL|*cos(LOL/2)}/{|OH|*cos(HOH/2)} => Due to vector algebra
> |a|=|b|=const/2. since the lone pairs are in opposite direction of OH
bonds,
> a minus sign is added. This part is similar to M site.
> ; const2 = {|OL|*sin(LOL/2)}/{|OH|*|OH|*sin(HOH)} => The denominator is
the
> magnitude of vector product of OH bonds.
> ; This sites are tetrahedral sites; so, its function 4
> ;
> ; site  fromfunctiona   b   c
> 5   1  2  3 4   -0.437172388-0.437172388
> 8.022961206
> 6   1  2  3 4   -0.437172388-0.437172388
> -8.022961206
> 
> [ exclusions ]
> 1   2   3   4   5   6
> 2   1   3   4   5   6
> 3   1   2   4   5   6
> 4   1   2   3   5   6
> 5   1   2   3   4   6
> 6   1   2   3   4   5
> 
> 
> And here is the mdp file which I used for the simulation run:
> cpp  = cpp
> include  = -I../top
> define   =
> 
> ; Run control
> 
> integrator   = md
> dt   = 0.001   ;1 fs
> nsteps   = 100 ;10 ns
> comm_mode= linear
> nstcomm  = 1
> 
> ;Output control
> 
> nstxout  = 5000
> nstlog   = 5000
> nstenergy= 5000
> nstxtcout= 1000
> xtc_grps =
> energygrps   =
> 
> ; Neighbour Searching
> 
> nstlist  = 10
> ns_type  = grid
> rlist= 0.9
> 
> ; Electrostatistics
> 
> coulombtype  = PME
> rcoulomb = 0.9
> epsilon_r= 1
> 
> ; Vdw
> 
> vdwtype  

Re: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation

2009-06-08 Thread David van der Spoel

Payman Pirzadeh wrote:

Here is the content of .itp file which I developed:

; This is an itp file to describe water's six-site model by H. Nada and J.P.
J. M. Van der Eerden, J. Chem. Phys. Vol.118, no.16, pp7401-7413 (2003)
; This model is a combination of TIP4P and TIP5P. It has three LJ sites and
3 Coulomb sites
; O-H bond length is 0.980A, HOH angle is 108.00degrees, LOL angle is 111.00
degrees, O-M and O-L are about 0.230A and 0.8892A respectively

[ defaults ]
; non-bondedtypecombrulegenpairsFudgeLJ
FudgeQQ N
1   2   NO

[ atomtypes ]
;name   masscharge  ptype   c6  c12
OW  15.9994 0.0 A   0.3115  0.714845562
HW  1.00800 0.477   A   0.0673  0.11541
MW  0.000   -0.866  D   0.000.00
LW  0.00-0.044  D   0.000.00

[ moleculetype ]
;molnamenrexcl
SOL 1

[ atoms ]
; nratomtyperesnr   residuename atomcgnrcharge
1   OW  1   SOL OW  1   0.0
2   HW  1   SOL HW1 1   0.477
3   HW  1   SOL HW2 1   0.477
4   MW  1   SOL MW  1   -0.866
5   LW  1   SOL LP1 1   -0.044
6   LW  1   SOL LP2 1   -0.044

[ settles ]
; OWfunctiondoh dhh
1   1   0.0980  0.15856

[ dummies3 ]
; These set of parameters are for M site which can be easily calculated
using TIP4P calculations from tip4p.itp
; So, it will be described as dummy site 3: r(v)= r(i) + a*(r(i)-r(j)) +
b*(r(i)-r(k))
; const = |OH|/{|OH|*cos(HOH/2)} => Due to vector algebra a=b=const/2.
Remember that OM is in the same direction of OH bonds.
; Remember this site is in the same plane of OH bonds; so, its function 1
;
; site  fromfunctiona   b
4   1  2  3 1   0.199642536 0.199642536

; Now we define the position of L sites which can be obtained from tip5p.itp
; So, it will be described as dummy site 3out: r(v) = r(i) + a*(r(i)-r(j)) +
b*(r(i)-r(k)) + c*(r(ij)Xr(ik))
; const1 = {|OL|*cos(LOL/2)}/{|OH|*cos(HOH/2)} => Due to vector algebra
|a|=|b|=const/2. since the lone pairs are in opposite direction of OH bonds,
a minus sign is added. This part is similar to M site.
; const2 = {|OL|*sin(LOL/2)}/{|OH|*|OH|*sin(HOH)} => The denominator is the
magnitude of vector product of OH bonds.
; This sites are tetrahedral sites; so, its function 4
;
; site  fromfunctiona   b   c
5   1  2  3 4   -0.437172388-0.437172388
8.022961206
6   1  2  3 4   -0.437172388-0.437172388
-8.022961206

[ exclusions ]
1   2   3   4   5   6
2   1   3   4   5   6
3   1   2   4   5   6
4   1   2   3   5   6
5   1   2   3   4   6
6   1   2   3   4   5


And here is the mdp file which I used for the simulation run:
cpp  = cpp
include  = -I../top
define   =

; Run control

integrator   = md
dt   = 0.001   ;1 fs
nsteps   = 100 ;10 ns
comm_mode= linear
nstcomm  = 1

;Output control

nstxout  = 5000
nstlog   = 5000
nstenergy= 5000
nstxtcout= 1000
xtc_grps =
energygrps   =

; Neighbour Searching

nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
rlist= 0.9

; Electrostatistics

coulombtype  = PME
rcoulomb = 0.9
epsilon_r= 1

; Vdw

vdwtype  = cut-off
rvdw = 1.2
DispCorr = EnerPres

;Ewald

fourierspacing  = 0.12
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol  = 1e-6
optimize_fft= yes

; Temperature coupling

tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = System
tau_t= 0.1
ref_t= 300

; Pressure Coupling

Pcoupl   = Berendsen
Pcoupltype   = isotropic
tau_p= 1.0
compressibility  = 5.5e-5
ref_p= 1.0
gen_vel  = yes
   


The expected Potential energy is supposed to be around -41.5kJ/mol while my
potential is around -22.2kJ/mol. I calculated the energies by g_energy
command.



And do yo have the right density?

Payman  



-Original Message-
From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org]
On Behalf Of David van der Spoel
Sent: June 8, 2009 11:13 AM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation

Payman Pirzadeh wrote:

To the best of my knowledge no, but how can I check that?

A. read the original paper: is your topology correct? Are the simulation 
parameters the same?


B. post the itp file here and mdp file and specify energy and expected 
energy. How abou

RE: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation

2009-06-08 Thread Payman Pirzadeh
Here is the content of .itp file which I developed:

; This is an itp file to describe water's six-site model by H. Nada and J.P.
J. M. Van der Eerden, J. Chem. Phys. Vol.118, no.16, pp7401-7413 (2003)
; This model is a combination of TIP4P and TIP5P. It has three LJ sites and
3 Coulomb sites
; O-H bond length is 0.980A, HOH angle is 108.00degrees, LOL angle is 111.00
degrees, O-M and O-L are about 0.230A and 0.8892A respectively

[ defaults ]
; non-bondedtypecombrulegenpairsFudgeLJ
FudgeQQ N
1   2   NO

[ atomtypes ]
;name   masscharge  ptype   c6  c12
OW  15.9994 0.0 A   0.3115  0.714845562
HW  1.00800 0.477   A   0.0673  0.11541
MW  0.000   -0.866  D   0.000.00
LW  0.00-0.044  D   0.000.00

[ moleculetype ]
;molnamenrexcl
SOL 1

[ atoms ]
; nratomtyperesnr   residuename atomcgnrcharge
1   OW  1   SOL OW  1   0.0
2   HW  1   SOL HW1 1   0.477
3   HW  1   SOL HW2 1   0.477
4   MW  1   SOL MW  1   -0.866
5   LW  1   SOL LP1 1   -0.044
6   LW  1   SOL LP2 1   -0.044

[ settles ]
; OWfunctiondoh dhh
1   1   0.0980  0.15856

[ dummies3 ]
; These set of parameters are for M site which can be easily calculated
using TIP4P calculations from tip4p.itp
; So, it will be described as dummy site 3: r(v)= r(i) + a*(r(i)-r(j)) +
b*(r(i)-r(k))
; const = |OH|/{|OH|*cos(HOH/2)} => Due to vector algebra a=b=const/2.
Remember that OM is in the same direction of OH bonds.
; Remember this site is in the same plane of OH bonds; so, its function 1
;
; site  fromfunctiona   b
4   1  2  3 1   0.199642536 0.199642536

; Now we define the position of L sites which can be obtained from tip5p.itp
; So, it will be described as dummy site 3out: r(v) = r(i) + a*(r(i)-r(j)) +
b*(r(i)-r(k)) + c*(r(ij)Xr(ik))
; const1 = {|OL|*cos(LOL/2)}/{|OH|*cos(HOH/2)} => Due to vector algebra
|a|=|b|=const/2. since the lone pairs are in opposite direction of OH bonds,
a minus sign is added. This part is similar to M site.
; const2 = {|OL|*sin(LOL/2)}/{|OH|*|OH|*sin(HOH)} => The denominator is the
magnitude of vector product of OH bonds.
; This sites are tetrahedral sites; so, its function 4
;
; site  fromfunctiona   b   c
5   1  2  3 4   -0.437172388-0.437172388
8.022961206
6   1  2  3 4   -0.437172388-0.437172388
-8.022961206

[ exclusions ]
1   2   3   4   5   6
2   1   3   4   5   6
3   1   2   4   5   6
4   1   2   3   5   6
5   1   2   3   4   6
6   1   2   3   4   5


And here is the mdp file which I used for the simulation run:
cpp  = cpp
include  = -I../top
define   =

; Run control

integrator   = md
dt   = 0.001   ;1 fs
nsteps   = 100 ;10 ns
comm_mode= linear
nstcomm  = 1

;Output control

nstxout  = 5000
nstlog   = 5000
nstenergy= 5000
nstxtcout= 1000
xtc_grps =
energygrps   =

; Neighbour Searching

nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
rlist= 0.9

; Electrostatistics

coulombtype  = PME
rcoulomb = 0.9
epsilon_r= 1

; Vdw

vdwtype  = cut-off
rvdw = 1.2
DispCorr = EnerPres

;Ewald

fourierspacing  = 0.12
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol  = 1e-6
optimize_fft= yes

; Temperature coupling

tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = System
tau_t= 0.1
ref_t= 300

; Pressure Coupling

Pcoupl   = Berendsen
Pcoupltype   = isotropic
tau_p= 1.0
compressibility  = 5.5e-5
ref_p= 1.0
gen_vel  = yes
   

The expected Potential energy is supposed to be around -41.5kJ/mol while my
potential is around -22.2kJ/mol. I calculated the energies by g_energy
command.

Payman  


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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation

Payman Pirzadeh wrote:
> To the best of my knowledge no, but how can I check that?
> 
A. read the original paper: is your topology correct? Are the simulation 
parameters the same?

B. post the itp file here and mdp file and specify energy and expected 
energy. How about energy units?

> 
> -Original Message-
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Re: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation

2009-06-08 Thread David van der Spoel

Payman Pirzadeh wrote:

To the best of my knowledge no, but how can I check that?

A. read the original paper: is your topology correct? Are the simulation 
parameters the same?


B. post the itp file here and mdp file and specify energy and expected 
energy. How about energy units?




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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation

Payman Pirzadeh wrote:

Hi,

I am using my own water model which I developed its .itp file. When 
simulation is done after 1ns and energy is kinetic and potential 
energies are analyzed, the kinetic value is almost OK, but the potential 
energy is almost half of the value reported in literature and another MD 
code that I am currently using. I double-checked the parameters I gave 
in the .itp with TIP4P and TIP5P to make sure everything is correct in 
format and unit. But I can not figure out the problem. Any ideas?




Is there any self-energy involved (i.e. a monomer energy that yo have to 
subtract)?
 

Payman  

 

 





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2009-06-08 Thread Payman Pirzadeh
To the best of my knowledge no, but how can I check that?


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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Energies in simulation

Payman Pirzadeh wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am using my own water model which I developed its .itp file. When 
> simulation is done after 1ns and energy is kinetic and potential 
> energies are analyzed, the kinetic value is almost OK, but the potential 
> energy is almost half of the value reported in literature and another MD 
> code that I am currently using. I double-checked the parameters I gave 
> in the .itp with TIP4P and TIP5P to make sure everything is correct in 
> format and unit. But I can not figure out the problem. Any ideas?
> 

Is there any self-energy involved (i.e. a monomer energy that yo have to 
subtract)?
>  
> 
> Payman  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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Payman Pirzadeh wrote:

Hi,

I am using my own water model which I developed its .itp file. When 
simulation is done after 1ns and energy is kinetic and potential 
energies are analyzed, the kinetic value is almost OK, but the potential 
energy is almost half of the value reported in literature and another MD 
code that I am currently using. I double-checked the parameters I gave 
in the .itp with TIP4P and TIP5P to make sure everything is correct in 
format and unit. But I can not figure out the problem. Any ideas?




Is there any self-energy involved (i.e. a monomer energy that yo have to 
subtract)?
 

Payman  

 

 





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[gmx-users] Energies in simulation

2009-06-08 Thread Payman Pirzadeh
Hi,

I am using my own water model which I developed its .itp file. When
simulation is done after 1ns and energy is kinetic and potential energies
are analyzed, the kinetic value is almost OK, but the potential energy is
almost half of the value reported in literature and another MD code that I
am currently using. I double-checked the parameters I gave in the .itp with
TIP4P and TIP5P to make sure everything is correct in format and unit. But I
can not figure out the problem. Any ideas?

 

Payman  

 

 

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