Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: charges,resonance and electrostatics

2008-09-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Omer Markovitch wrote:


There is no non-bonded interaction between these two oxygens,
unless you are using an Urey-Bradley potential for the angle,
like in the CHARMM force field. Most (if not all) of the
standard force fields in Gromacs treat the interaction of these
oxygens within an angle definition, which is a bonded term.

-Justin

So no coloumb law between the two oxygens?  10x, Omer.


Right, 1-3 interactions are accounted for within bonded (angle) definitions, 
unless you are applying an Urey-Bradley potential.


-Justin






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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: charges,resonance and electrostatics

2008-09-24 Thread Omer Markovitch
>
>
>> There is no non-bonded interaction between these two oxygens, unless you
>> are using an Urey-Bradley potential for the angle, like in the CHARMM force
>> field. Most (if not all) of the standard force fields in Gromacs treat the
>> interaction of these oxygens within an angle definition, which is a bonded
>> term.
>>
>> -Justin
>
> So no coloumb law between the two oxygens?  10x, Omer.
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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: charges,resonance and electrostatics

2008-09-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Omer Markovitch wrote:

Hello,
There is a point, I want to clear out for myself:
Say we focus on the aspartate residue. It has a formal charge of -1.
This charge on either oxygen of the carboxyl is -0.8 (oxygens OD1 & 
OD2), according to one of the force fields employed in GROMACS.
 
What is the right way to calculate electrostatics here:

1) "As is", and letting the two oxygens repel one another.
2) Ignore this specific pair when calculating?
 
How does GROMACS operates? I think that (1) is the common practice, but 
I want to be sure.
 


There is no non-bonded interaction between these two oxygens, unless you are 
using an Urey-Bradley potential for the angle, like in the CHARMM force field. 
Most (if not all) of the standard force fields in Gromacs treat the interaction 
of these oxygens within an angle definition, which is a bonded term.


-Justin


Thank you, Omer Markovitch.
(this email was sent to gmx-dev. by mistake)

Koby Levy research group,
Weizmann Institute of Science.
http://www.weizmann.ac.il/sb/faculty_pages/Levy/




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[gmx-users] Fwd: charges,resonance and electrostatics

2008-09-24 Thread Omer Markovitch
 Hello,
There is a point, I want to clear out for myself:
Say we focus on the aspartate residue. It has a formal charge of -1.
This charge on either oxygen of the carboxyl is -0.8 (oxygens OD1 & OD2),
according to one of the force fields employed in GROMACS.

What is the right way to calculate electrostatics here:
1) "As is", and letting the two oxygens repel one another.
2) Ignore this specific pair when calculating?

How does GROMACS operates? I think that (1) is the common practice, but I
want to be sure.

Thank you, Omer Markovitch.
(this email was sent to gmx-dev. by mistake)

Koby Levy research group,
Weizmann Institute of Science.
http://www.weizmann.ac.il/sb/faculty_pages/Levy/
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