Re: [gmx-users] P-N vector orientation

2009-02-13 Thread patrick fuchs

Hi,
as Nicolas suggested you can use my program g_tilt to do such an 
analysis. Instead of giving the whole backbone as a selection, simply 
give the 2 atoms (P  N). Initially g_tilt uses the first eigen vector 
of the inertia matrix of the atom selection, so you might want to 
simplify the code to calculate the PN vector (using [xN-xP,yN-yP,zN-zP]).

Ciao,

Patrick

Nicolas a écrit :

Hello,

I just remember that you might be interested by g_tilt developed by 
Patrick Fuchs.:


   http://www.dsimb.inserm.fr/~fuchs/download/
   http://www.dsimb.inserm.fr/%7Efuchs/download/

Its purpose is to calculate the orientation of an helix in a bilayer, 
however it might tweaked to calculate the NP dipole orientation. I've 
done that one time, but it was only for a particular lipid in a 
membrane, not for the whole bilayer. IIRW, the result was the same than 
the one of my scripts and the calculation was much faster.


Nicolas

ANINDITA GAYEN a écrit :

Dear Xavier Periole
 I am a GROMACS user, presently working with DMPC  
bilayer.. I want to calculate the orientation of the head groups P-N 
vector. From gmx-users,  I have came to know that you have a program 
that can determine the angle of the PN vector (or what ever pair of 
atoms) relative to the z axis.
If possible, can you please provide me that program or tell me how can 
i calculate that?


Thanks in advance.

Ms. Anindita Gayen
C/O Dr. Chaitali Mukhopadhyay
Senior Research Fellow
Department of Chemistry
University of Calcutta
92, A. P. C. Road
Kolkata-700 009
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Re: [gmx-users] P-N vector orientation

2009-02-12 Thread Nicolas

Hello,

I just remember that you might be interested by g_tilt developed by 
Patrick Fuchs.:


   http://www.dsimb.inserm.fr/~fuchs/download/
   http://www.dsimb.inserm.fr/%7Efuchs/download/

Its purpose is to calculate the orientation of an helix in a bilayer, 
however it might tweaked to calculate the NP dipole orientation. I've 
done that one time, but it was only for a particular lipid in a 
membrane, not for the whole bilayer. IIRW, the result was the same than 
the one of my scripts and the calculation was much faster.


Nicolas

ANINDITA GAYEN a écrit :

Dear Xavier Periole
 I am a GROMACS user, presently working with DMPC  
bilayer.. I want to calculate the orientation of the head groups P-N 
vector. From gmx-users,  I have came to know that you have a program 
that can determine the angle of the PN vector (or what ever pair of 
atoms) relative to the z axis.
If possible, can you please provide me that program or tell me how can 
i calculate that?


Thanks in advance.

Ms. Anindita Gayen
C/O Dr. Chaitali Mukhopadhyay
Senior Research Fellow
Department of Chemistry
University of Calcutta
92, A. P. C. Road
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RE: [gmx-users] P-N vector orientation

2009-02-12 Thread Berk Hess

Hi,

g_bundle does something similar,
so does g_sgangle (but only for one vector I think).

Berk

 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:50:02 -0700
 From: nsa...@ucalgary.ca
 To: aninditaga...@yahoo.co.in; gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] P-N vector orientation
 CC: 
 
 Hello,
 
 I just remember that you might be interested by g_tilt developed by 
 Patrick Fuchs.:
 
 http://www.dsimb.inserm.fr/~fuchs/download/
 http://www.dsimb.inserm.fr/%7Efuchs/download/
 
 Its purpose is to calculate the orientation of an helix in a bilayer, 
 however it might tweaked to calculate the NP dipole orientation. I've 
 done that one time, but it was only for a particular lipid in a 
 membrane, not for the whole bilayer. IIRW, the result was the same than 
 the one of my scripts and the calculation was much faster.
 
 Nicolas
 
 ANINDITA GAYEN a écrit :
  Dear Xavier Periole
   I am a GROMACS user, presently working with DMPC  
  bilayer.. I want to calculate the orientation of the head groups P-N 
  vector. From gmx-users,  I have came to know that you have a program 
  that can determine the angle of the PN vector (or what ever pair of 
  atoms) relative to the z axis.
  If possible, can you please provide me that program or tell me how can 
  i calculate that?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Ms. Anindita Gayen
  C/O Dr. Chaitali Mukhopadhyay
  Senior Research Fellow
  Department of Chemistry
  University of Calcutta
  92, A. P. C. Road
  Kolkata-700 009
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Re: [gmx-users] P-N vector orientation

2009-02-11 Thread Nicolas

Hello,

Is that thread solved? I've got a bunch of TCL scripts for VMD that can 
do this calculation. They are not really user friendly or incredibly 
fast, but they give a correct answer. I can send those scripts off the 
list if you are interested.


Nicolas

ANINDITA GAYEN a écrit :

Dear Xavier Periole
 I am a GROMACS user, presently working with DMPC  
bilayer.. I want to calculate the orientation of the head groups P-N 
vector. From gmx-users,  I have came to know that you have a program 
that can determine the angle of the PN vector (or what ever pair of 
atoms) relative to the z axis.
If possible, can you please provide me that program or tell me how can 
i calculate that?


Thanks in advance.

Ms. Anindita Gayen
C/O Dr. Chaitali Mukhopadhyay
Senior Research Fellow
Department of Chemistry
University of Calcutta
92, A. P. C. Road
Kolkata-700 009
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[gmx-users] P-N vector orientation

2009-02-10 Thread ANINDITA GAYEN
Dear Xavier Periole  



I am a GROMACS user, presently working with DMPC  bilayer. I want to calculate 
the orientation of the head groups
P-N vector. From gmx-users,  I have came to know that you have a
program that can determine the angle of the PN vector (or what ever
pair of atoms) relative to the z axis. 



If possible, can you please provide me that program or tell me how can i 
calculate that?







Thanks in advance.





Ms. Anindita Gayen

C/O Dr. Chaitali Mukhopadhyay

Senior Research Fellow


Department of Chemistry


University of Calcutta


92, A. P. C. Road


Kolkata-700 009


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Re: [gmx-users] P-N vector orientation

2009-02-10 Thread XAvier Periole


Hi Anindita,

This program I had a long time ago and unfortunately it has been lost  
during my movings.


I think you should try to contact:
Andrei. Gurtovenko
Biophysics and Soft Matter Group
Laboratory of Physics
Helsinki University of Technology
P.O.Box 1100
FIN-02015 HUT
Finland
Tel.: +358-9-4515803
e-mail: a...@fyslab.hut.fi

He had a version and if my memory is correct he modified it to an even  
better

version.

It would actually be useful if someone could post a existing version  
of PN orientation.


XAvier.

On Feb 10, 2009, at 2:12 PM, ANINDITA GAYEN wrote:


Dear Xavier Periole
 I am a GROMACS user, presently working with  
DMPC  bilayer.. I want to calculate the orientation of the head  
groups P-N vector. From gmx-users,  I have came to know that you  
have a program that can determine the angle of the PN vector (or  
what ever pair of atoms) relative to the z axis.
If possible, can you please provide me that program or tell me how  
can i calculate that?


Thanks in advance.

Ms. Anindita Gayen
C/O Dr. Chaitali Mukhopadhyay
Senior Research Fellow
Department of Chemistry
University of Calcutta
92, A. P. C. Road
Kolkata-700 009
India


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