[gmx-users] POPC number

2008-09-16 Thread sudheer babu
Hi gmx-users,
whats the number of POPC molecules should be there after inserting protein
into popc? In my case 90 popc molecules are there around the protein from
128 molecues which I downloaded from Dr.Tielman's website.

Any suggestion will be appreciated
Thanks in advance.
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Re: [gmx-users] POPC number

2008-09-16 Thread Jochen Hub
I guess that depends on the size of your protein. You should have enough
 lipds such that the protein doesn't interact with its preriodic image.
90 POPC seem to be a bit to few for that. In my aquaporin simulations, I
usually had something like 270 POPE molecules, but if you simulate a
smaller protein, less lipids may be sufficient. You may also want to use
a hexagonal box which will allow you have less lipids and water.

cheers, jochen

sudheer babu wrote:
 Hi gmx-users,
 whats the number of POPC molecules should be there after inserting protein
 into popc? In my case 90 popc molecules are there around the protein from
 128 molecues which I downloaded from Dr.Tielman's website.
 
 Any suggestion will be appreciated
 Thanks in advance.
 
 
 
 
 
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[gmx-users] POPC number

2008-09-16 Thread chris . neale

I guess that depends on the size of your protein. You should have enough
lipds such that the protein doesn't interact with its preriodic image.
90 POPC seem to be a bit to few for that. In my aquaporin simulations, I
usually had something like 270 POPE molecules, but if you simulate a
smaller protein, less lipids may be sufficient. You may also want to use
a hexagonal box which will allow you have less lipids and water.


A hexagonal box? Great. How does one go about constructing that? Is  
this a cylinder-like box with hexagonal shape or just a triclinic one?  
In the triclinic case, does the PBC membrane turn out as it should?


Thanks,
Chris.


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Re: [gmx-users] POPC number

2008-09-16 Thread Jochen Hub
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I guess that depends on the size of your protein. You should have enough
 lipds such that the protein doesn't interact with its preriodic image.
 90 POPC seem to be a bit to few for that. In my aquaporin simulations, I
 usually had something like 270 POPE molecules, but if you simulate a
 smaller protein, less lipids may be sufficient. You may also want to use
 a hexagonal box which will allow you have less lipids and water.
 
 A hexagonal box? Great. How does one go about constructing that? Is this
 a cylinder-like box with hexagonal shape or just a triclinic one? In the
 triclinic case, does the PBC membrane turn out as it should?

Hey Chris,

a hexagonal box is a special case of a triclinic one: Here we go:

echo CRYST1  90.0  90.0   40.00  90.00  90.00  60.0 P 1   1 
x.pdb
genbox -cp x.pdb -cs tip4p -o filled.pdb
echo 0|trjconv -f filled.pdb -o compact.pdb -ur compact -s filled.pdb
pymol compact.pdb

Have fun,
Jochen



 
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 Chris.
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] POPC number

2008-09-16 Thread Jochen Hub
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I guess that depends on the size of your protein. You should have enough
 lipds such that the protein doesn't interact with its preriodic image.
 90 POPC seem to be a bit to few for that. In my aquaporin simulations, I
 usually had something like 270 POPE molecules, but if you simulate a
 smaller protein, less lipids may be sufficient. You may also want to use
 a hexagonal box which will allow you have less lipids and water.
 
 A hexagonal box? Great. How does one go about constructing that? Is this
 a cylinder-like box with hexagonal shape or just a triclinic one? In the
 triclinic case, does the PBC membrane turn out as it should?

And yes, the PBCs work just fine, as expected from any triclinic box.

cheer, jochen

 
 Thanks,
 Chris.
 
 
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