Re: [gmx-users] Peptide aggregation

2008-09-20 Thread Ran Friedman, Biochemisches Inst.

Dear Leon,

Note that you can already use g_clustsize to check the aggregates. I'll 
contact you off list next week with the modified version.


Ran

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:13:02 +0100
 Léon Salgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear Dr. Ran Friedman

Would you please be so kind to send me your version, to calculate then the 
rgyr "of the largest aggregate".
The box was built with a layer of 1.2 nm around the solute (editconf -d 
1.2).


Leon

Ran Friedman wrote:

Dear Leon,

You can try to use g_clustsize to get the aggregates. I have a version
that can calculate the gyration radius of the largest aggregate, but
this would work only if your box is big enough and I haven't tried it
with rhombic dodecahedron boxes.

Ran.

Léon Salgado wrote:
  

Dear gmx users

I did some simulations of multimers (peptides) in rhombic dodecahedron
boxes. In the initial configuration of the system, the peptides are
close of each other in the center of the box.

My aim to see if the peptides do aggregate during the trajectory or if
they tend to stay apart. A rough estimate can be taken from the
gyration radius for all the peptides together.

Already did a trjconv -pbc nojump pre-treatment on the trajectory,
before calculating the Rgyr. The gyration.xvg plots sometimes do show
abrupt jumps, and this is surely due to boundary effects, if I
correctly understood the PBC idea. If a peptide approaches the
boundary, it appears on the opposite side, thus rgyr will show a false
sudden increase. In fact, the peptide could be closer to the rest of
the other peptide molecule(s).

Thus my question is:
how to deal with peptide clusters that span over the periodic boundaries?

A similar question was done by Singh:
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2007-January/025474.html

and it  was suggested by Chris Neale to pre-process the trajectory
(see
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2007-January/025481.html)
with:

trjconv -f a.xtc -o a_cluster.gro -e 0.001 -pbc cluster
grompp -f a.mdp -c a_cluster.gro -o a_cluster.tpr
trjconv -f a.xtc -o a_cluster.xtc -s a_cluster.tpr -pbc nojump

but I'm getting infinite loops on the -pbc cluster treatment, same as
reported by Chris
(http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2008-July/035343.html).

Best,
Léon

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Re: [gmx-users] Peptide aggregation

2008-09-19 Thread Léon Salgado

Dear Dr. Ran Friedman

Would you please be so kind to send me your version, to calculate then 
the rgyr "of the largest aggregate".
The box was built with a layer of 1.2 nm around the solute (editconf -d 
1.2).


Leon

Ran Friedman wrote:

Dear Leon,

You can try to use g_clustsize to get the aggregates. I have a version
that can calculate the gyration radius of the largest aggregate, but
this would work only if your box is big enough and I haven't tried it
with rhombic dodecahedron boxes.

Ran.

Léon Salgado wrote:
  

Dear gmx users

I did some simulations of multimers (peptides) in rhombic dodecahedron
boxes. In the initial configuration of the system, the peptides are
close of each other in the center of the box.

My aim to see if the peptides do aggregate during the trajectory or if
they tend to stay apart. A rough estimate can be taken from the
gyration radius for all the peptides together.

Already did a trjconv -pbc nojump pre-treatment on the trajectory,
before calculating the Rgyr. The gyration.xvg plots sometimes do show
abrupt jumps, and this is surely due to boundary effects, if I
correctly understood the PBC idea. If a peptide approaches the
boundary, it appears on the opposite side, thus rgyr will show a false
sudden increase. In fact, the peptide could be closer to the rest of
the other peptide molecule(s).

Thus my question is:
how to deal with peptide clusters that span over the periodic boundaries?

A similar question was done by Singh:
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2007-January/025474.html

and it  was suggested by Chris Neale to pre-process the trajectory
(see
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2007-January/025481.html)
with:

trjconv -f a.xtc -o a_cluster.gro -e 0.001 -pbc cluster
grompp -f a.mdp -c a_cluster.gro -o a_cluster.tpr
trjconv -f a.xtc -o a_cluster.xtc -s a_cluster.tpr -pbc nojump

but I'm getting infinite loops on the -pbc cluster treatment, same as
reported by Chris
(http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2008-July/035343.html).

Best,
Léon

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Re: [gmx-users] Peptide aggregation

2008-09-19 Thread Ran Friedman
Dear Leon,

You can try to use g_clustsize to get the aggregates. I have a version
that can calculate the gyration radius of the largest aggregate, but
this would work only if your box is big enough and I haven't tried it
with rhombic dodecahedron boxes.

Ran.

Léon Salgado wrote:
> Dear gmx users
>
> I did some simulations of multimers (peptides) in rhombic dodecahedron
> boxes. In the initial configuration of the system, the peptides are
> close of each other in the center of the box.
>
> My aim to see if the peptides do aggregate during the trajectory or if
> they tend to stay apart. A rough estimate can be taken from the
> gyration radius for all the peptides together.
>
> Already did a trjconv -pbc nojump pre-treatment on the trajectory,
> before calculating the Rgyr. The gyration.xvg plots sometimes do show
> abrupt jumps, and this is surely due to boundary effects, if I
> correctly understood the PBC idea. If a peptide approaches the
> boundary, it appears on the opposite side, thus rgyr will show a false
> sudden increase. In fact, the peptide could be closer to the rest of
> the other peptide molecule(s).
>
> Thus my question is:
> how to deal with peptide clusters that span over the periodic boundaries?
>
> A similar question was done by Singh:
> http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2007-January/025474.html
>
> and it  was suggested by Chris Neale to pre-process the trajectory
> (see
> http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2007-January/025481.html)
> with:
>
> trjconv -f a.xtc -o a_cluster.gro -e 0.001 -pbc cluster
> grompp -f a.mdp -c a_cluster.gro -o a_cluster.tpr
> trjconv -f a.xtc -o a_cluster.xtc -s a_cluster.tpr -pbc nojump
>
> but I'm getting infinite loops on the -pbc cluster treatment, same as
> reported by Chris
> (http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2008-July/035343.html).
>
> Best,
> Léon
>
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[gmx-users] Peptide aggregation

2008-09-19 Thread Léon Salgado

Dear gmx users

I did some simulations of multimers (peptides) in rhombic dodecahedron 
boxes. In the initial configuration of the system, the peptides are 
close of each other in the center of the box.


My aim to see if the peptides do aggregate during the trajectory or if 
they tend to stay apart. A rough estimate can be taken from the gyration 
radius for all the peptides together.


Already did a trjconv -pbc nojump pre-treatment on the trajectory, 
before calculating the Rgyr. The gyration.xvg plots sometimes do show 
abrupt jumps, and this is surely due to boundary effects, if I correctly 
understood the PBC idea. If a peptide approaches the boundary, it 
appears on the opposite side, thus rgyr will show a false sudden 
increase. In fact, the peptide could be closer to the rest of the other 
peptide molecule(s).


Thus my question is:
how to deal with peptide clusters that span over the periodic boundaries?

A similar question was done by Singh:
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2007-January/025474.html

and it  was suggested by Chris Neale to pre-process the trajectory (see 
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2007-January/025481.html) with:


trjconv -f a.xtc -o a_cluster.gro -e 0.001 -pbc cluster
grompp -f a.mdp -c a_cluster.gro -o a_cluster.tpr
trjconv -f a.xtc -o a_cluster.xtc -s a_cluster.tpr -pbc nojump

but I'm getting infinite loops on the -pbc cluster treatment, same as reported by Chris 
(http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2008-July/035343.html).


Best,
Léon

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