Re: [gmx-users] Placing ions in the specified positions

2012-02-16 Thread Peter C. Lai
With xyz periodic boundary conditions, the ions will eventually appear as if 
they are diffusing into the extracellular compartment from above as they 
diffuse down the -Z and leave the original box, anyway. So unless you actually
need them *only interacting* with the intracellular side by using walls, it 
doesn't really matter where the ions are placed as long as they aren't stuck 
somewhere illogical (e.g. inside the bilayer)

On 2012-02-16 10:13:42AM +0300, James Starlight wrote:
 Dear Gromacs users!
 
 
 I've constructed my biphastic system with the water-ccl4-water layers where
 in the ccl4 layer I've placed my membrane protein.
 
 Now I'd like to place addition 5 Cl ions to the bottow leafleat of water to
 mimick the 'positive-inside rule' (my protein consist of 5 Lys) of the
 membrane protein topology. How I could specify to place some ions in the
 desired possitions? As i understood the genion place ions in the random
 possitions so I've obtained 3 ions in the bottom and 2 in the upper layer.
 
 Thanks
 
 James

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[gmx-users] Placing ions in the specified positions

2012-02-15 Thread James Starlight
Dear Gromacs users!


I've constructed my biphastic system with the water-ccl4-water layers where
in the ccl4 layer I've placed my membrane protein.

Now I'd like to place addition 5 Cl ions to the bottow leafleat of water to
mimick the 'positive-inside rule' (my protein consist of 5 Lys) of the
membrane protein topology. How I could specify to place some ions in the
desired possitions? As i understood the genion place ions in the random
possitions so I've obtained 3 ions in the bottom and 2 in the upper layer.

Thanks

James
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Re: [gmx-users] Placing ions in the specified positions

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Abraham

On 16/02/2012 6:13 PM, James Starlight wrote:

Dear Gromacs users!


I've constructed my biphastic system with the water-ccl4-water layers 
where in the ccl4 layer I've placed my membrane protein.


Now I'd like to place addition 5 Cl ions to the bottow leafleat of 
water to mimick the 'positive-inside rule' (my protein consist of 5 
Lys) of the membrane protein topology. How I could specify to place 
some ions in the desired possitions? As i understood the genion place 
ions in the random possitions so I've obtained 3 ions in the bottom 
and 2 in the upper layer.


Make five holes by removing cunningly chosen water molecules reasonably 
spaced out. Add five plus a few extra Cl ions, and remove those that 
went to unsuitable locations. Equilibrate forever - but you were going 
to have to do this anyway!


Mark
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