[gmx-users] Pull Simulation: Force spike on F vs X output and extension stall

2011-08-16 Thread Natalie Stephenson
Hi,



I was wondering if you would be able to clear up a slightly confusing aspect of 
the simulations I've been running.



I am currently performing a pull simulation and when viewing the outputs of all 
the simulations I have run I see the extension of the protein stop when it 
reaches the same sub-domain each time (at around a 10 nm extension).  The mdp 
file I use as the input file states that the pull distance should be much 
larger than this.



Also when viewing the -px -pf outputs this agrees.  When the simulation reaches 
a 10 nm extension it stops and only increases around 0.2 nm over the remaining 
simulation time (~3000 ps). When force extension is plotted there is still an 
increase in force which results in a spike at the 10 nm extension point, 
increasing the force from around 0.7 nN to around 30 nN.



Is there any reason this could be an artefact or is it just the fact that this 
domain is very firmly in contact with it's adjacent domain?



Thank you for your help with this matter.



Kind regards,

Natalie




Natalie Stephenson, B.Sc
PhD Research Associate

Manchester Interdisciplinary Biocentre
131 Princess Street
Manchester
M1 7DN
x65816

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Re: [gmx-users] Pull Simulation: Force spike on F vs X output and extension stall

2011-08-16 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Natalie Stephenson wrote:

Hi,

 

I was wondering if you would be able to clear up a slightly confusing 
aspect of the simulations I've been running. 

 

I am currently performing a pull simulation and when viewing the outputs 
of all the simulations I have run I see the extension of the protein 
stop when it reaches the same sub-domain each time (at around a 10 nm 
extension).  The mdp file I use as the input file states that the pull 
distance should be much larger than this.


 

Also when viewing the -px -pf outputs this agrees.  When the simulation 
reaches a 10 nm extension it stops and only increases around 0.2 nm over 
the remaining simulation time (~3000 ps). When force extension is 
plotted there is still an increase in force which results in a spike at 
the 10 nm extension point, increasing the force from around 0.7 nN to 
around 30 nN. 

 

Is there any reason this could be an artefact or is it just the fact 
that this domain is very firmly in contact with it's adjacent domain?




Is your box of sufficient size?  Your pull distance must always be less than 
half the box vector in the pulling dimension (unless using the 
direction_periodic geometry, which may or may not be available in your Gromacs 
version, but you haven't said which you're using).  What type of unit cell are 
you using?  Could the protein be running into its own periodic image?


-Justin

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Ph.D. Candidate
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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