Re: [gmx-users] RF and TI

2009-12-05 Thread Alexey Odinokov
But my system is rigid benzene molecule, and all intramolecular
interactions are absent.
The RF modifies a short-range electrostatic potential. Is it correct
for both decoupling scheme and manual method? Where is the
difference? And what about additive constant (named Crf in the manual,
formula 4.14), is it also included in the dH/dl?

Alexey

2009/12/4 Berk Hess g...@hotmail.com:
 Hi,

 Yes, RF in the couple scheme is correct.
 The manual calculation you did is incorrect.
 In the decoupled state the intra-molecular interactions of the decoupled
 molecule should not be RF, but plain Coulomb.
 The couple option does this correctly.

 Berk

 Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 15:52:58 +0300
 From: ale.odino...@gmail.com
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: [gmx-users] RF and TI

 Dear gmx users,
 I calculated the hydration free energy of benzene molecule two times.
 First time I used a decoupling method implemented in GROMACS. Second
 time I performed thermodynamical integration between different
 topologies of the benzene molecule: non-interacting with media and
 normal one. All intramolecular interactions were turned off. The
 results were different: decoupling method gave energies about 2.8
 kcal/mol higher. I investigated the problem and found that the
 difference of the dH/dl values was due to the Reaction-field term.
 When I switched electrostatic to the simple cut-off scheme, decoupling
 method gave almost the same result, while for dual topology method the
 result increased on 2-3 kcal/mol.
 Is the RF method consistent with free energy calculations? Can it be
 treated within the frames of decoupling scheme?

 Thanks,

 Alexey
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[gmx-users] RF and TI

2009-12-04 Thread Alexey Odinokov
Dear gmx users,
I calculated the hydration free energy of benzene molecule two times.
First time I used a decoupling method implemented in GROMACS. Second
time I performed thermodynamical integration between different
topologies of the benzene molecule: non-interacting with media and
normal one. All intramolecular interactions were turned off. The
results were different: decoupling method gave energies about 2.8
kcal/mol higher. I investigated the problem and found that the
difference of the dH/dl values was due to the Reaction-field term.
When I switched electrostatic to the simple cut-off scheme, decoupling
method gave almost the same result, while for dual topology method the
result increased on 2-3 kcal/mol.
Is the RF method consistent with free energy calculations? Can it be
treated within the frames of decoupling scheme?

Thanks,

Alexey
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RE: [gmx-users] RF and TI

2009-12-04 Thread Berk Hess

Hi,

Yes, RF in the couple scheme is correct.
The manual calculation you did is incorrect.
In the decoupled state the intra-molecular interactions of the decoupled
molecule should not be RF, but plain Coulomb.
The couple option does this correctly.

Berk

 Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 15:52:58 +0300
 From: ale.odino...@gmail.com
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: [gmx-users] RF and TI
 
 Dear gmx users,
 I calculated the hydration free energy of benzene molecule two times.
 First time I used a decoupling method implemented in GROMACS. Second
 time I performed thermodynamical integration between different
 topologies of the benzene molecule: non-interacting with media and
 normal one. All intramolecular interactions were turned off. The
 results were different: decoupling method gave energies about 2.8
 kcal/mol higher. I investigated the problem and found that the
 difference of the dH/dl values was due to the Reaction-field term.
 When I switched electrostatic to the simple cut-off scheme, decoupling
 method gave almost the same result, while for dual topology method the
 result increased on 2-3 kcal/mol.
 Is the RF method consistent with free energy calculations? Can it be
 treated within the frames of decoupling scheme?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Alexey
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