[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 68, Issue 35

2009-12-05 Thread Stefan Hoorman

 Stefan Hoorman wrote:
 
  Stefan Hoorman wrote:
How can I calculate the angle between a helix inserted in a
  membrane and
the axis perpendicular to the surface of the membrane. I have
 tried
using g_helixorient, but the graphs all come as a straight line
  in zero.
 
  See -z in g_sgangle -h
 
  Mark
 
 
  Thank you for the tip, but again I faced a problem. I could only analyse
  using g_sgangle with an index group containing 3 atoms. Then the problem
  is, since my helix not only tilts, but also it bends a little back and
  forth, the angle between it and the z axis will vary greatly depending
  on which three atoms I choose. I imagined that by choosing three alpha
  carbon atoms every four residues would give me a good outcome, but it
  turns out that the angle changes a lot, and I am guessing it is because
  of this bending movement. When I say changes a lot I mean; it starts
  at 0º and gets up to 50º, which i imagine to be a little bit too much.
  Would there be a better way to calculate this?

 g_principal will calculate the axes of inertia, from which you can
 calculate the angle with the Z-axis.

 Mark

 Ok, thank you for the info, but now I got a little bit confused. What
exactly does the info from axis1.dat, axis2.dat, axis3.dat and moi.dat mean?
And how would I use this info to calculate the helix tilt. I know the
general meaning of principal axes of inertia, but I could not find any
information more specific to this type of caltulation I need to do. If you
could give any reference or any other type of information a little bit more
specific I would be very greatful. I mean, if it is not too much to ask.
Thank you
Stef.
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 68, Issue 35

2009-12-05 Thread Mark Abraham

Stefan Hoorman wrote:



Stefan Hoorman wrote:
 
  Stefan Hoorman wrote:
How can I calculate the angle between a helix inserted in a
  membrane and
the axis perpendicular to the surface of the membrane. I
have tried
using g_helixorient, but the graphs all come as a straight
line
  in zero.
 
  See -z in g_sgangle -h
 
  Mark
 
 
  Thank you for the tip, but again I faced a problem. I could only
analyse
  using g_sgangle with an index group containing 3 atoms. Then the
problem
  is, since my helix not only tilts, but also it bends a little
back and
  forth, the angle between it and the z axis will vary greatly
depending
  on which three atoms I choose. I imagined that by choosing three
alpha
  carbon atoms every four residues would give me a good outcome, but it
  turns out that the angle changes a lot, and I am guessing it is
because
  of this bending movement. When I say changes a lot I mean; it
starts
  at 0º and gets up to 50º, which i imagine to be a little bit too
much.
  Would there be a better way to calculate this?

g_principal will calculate the axes of inertia, from which you can
calculate the angle with the Z-axis.

Mark

Ok, thank you for the info, but now I got a little bit confused. What 
exactly does the info from axis1.dat, axis2.dat, axis3.dat and moi.dat 
mean?


I don't know, I've never seen them. I'd be expecting three numbers in 
each to indicate a vector parallel to the axis.


And how would I use this info to calculate the helix tilt. I know 
the general meaning of principal axes of inertia, but I could not find 
any information more specific to this type of caltulation I need to do. 
If you could give any reference or any other type of information a 
little bit more specific I would be very greatful. I mean, if it is not 
too much to ask.


This is standard geometry - dot-products of vectors are related to the 
cosine of the angle between them. Check wikipedia.


Mark
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