R: Re: [gmx-users] Rotation Constraints - PMF + rerun

2013-07-24 Thread battis...@libero.it
in my traj.xtc file there are 1 frame every 10 ps  from 0 ps  to 1 ps,  
therefore in total 1001 frames.

I tried -x trj.xtc instead -o trj.trr, but mdrun has generated a file trj.xtc.
trr

Many thanks!

Anna


>Messaggio originale
>Da: ckut...@gwdg.de
>Data: 24/07/2013 13.09
>A: "battis...@libero.it", "Discussion list for GROMACS 
users"
>Ogg: Re: [gmx-users] Rotation Constraints - PMF  + rerun
>
>On Jul 24, 2013, at 12:30 PM, battis...@libero.it wrote:
>
>> Dear Carsten,
>> 
>> Thank you very much for your very useful help!
>> I'm making some tries to test the orire options that probably will solve 
my 
>> problem.
>> 
>> In order to do not waste resource, I thought using the rerun option of 
mdrun I 
>> can use the trajectories generated before, where my mistake was to allow 
the 
>> rotation of my structure. 
>> So I generated a new topol.tpr file changing the orire options in the mdp 
and 
>> I made:
>> 
>> 1. mdrun -rerun ../traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -o trj.trr
>> 2. trjcat -f traj.trr -o trajout.xtc
>> 
>> but in the trajout.xtc there is only one point as I can check for example 
>Hm, I am not sure, maybe you need to use -x trj.xtc instead of -o trj.trr
>to trigger output of all .xtc frames. How many frames are in ../traj.xtc?
>
>Carsten
>
>> with: 
>> 3. g_gyrate -f trajout.xtc -s topol.tpr -n index.ndx
>> 
>> 
>> Could you confirm me that it is not possible follow this idea?
>> In fact I suppose that this method it is not applicable;  but  it is 
necessary 
>> to generate a new trajectory, because the angular restraints modify 
completely 
>> the trajectory.
>> 
>> Or, just to be sure,  did I not made the things in the right way? 
>> 
>> Thank you very much!
>> 
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> Messaggio originale
>>> Da: ckut...@gwdg.de
>>> Data: 23/07/2013 13.09
>>> A: "battis...@libero.it", "Discussion list for 
GROMACS 
>> users"
>>> Ogg: Re: [gmx-users] Rotation Constraints - PMF
>>> 
>>> Hi Anna,
>>> 
>>> please have a look at the Enforced Rotation Section in the Gromacs 4.6 
>> manual.
>>> You can restrain the angle of rotation about an axis by setting the 
rotation 
>> rate
>>> to zero. There is also a 4.5 add-on available with rotational restraints 
in
>>> the Gromacs git repository (branch "rotation"). For more info you may want 
to
>>> look at this page:
>>> 
>>> http://www.mpibpc.mpg.de/grubmueller/rotation
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Carsten
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 23, 2013, at 12:18 PM, battis...@libero.it wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear user and expert,
>>>> I'd like ask you a suggestion about a problem that I will try present 
you 
>> schematically.
>>>> I have got a structure "s" and I have generated the topolgy file itp for 
it.
>> A number of separate "s" in turn generate a complex structure A, that is 
>> characterized by a cylindrical shape.
>>>> Now, I constructed a system with two cylindrical structures, A and B (in 
>> total made by 64 "s" structures), and I'd like make an Umbrella Sampling 
>> calculation in order to study the PMF varying the distance between A and B.
>>>> 
>>>> My problem is that I'd like fix the orientation of the axis of each 
>> structure A and B long the z axis, during the dynamics.
>>>> So I need to put a force into the system or a constrain, such that when 
the 
>> axis of A or B rotates respect to z axis, the force puts back the axis of 
the 
>> structure in the z direction.
>>>> 
>>>> It this possible?  If it is so, could you tell me how to do that?
>>>> Than you very much,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [gmx-users] Rotation Constraints - PMF + rerun

2013-07-24 Thread Carsten Kutzner
On Jul 24, 2013, at 12:30 PM, battis...@libero.it wrote:

> Dear Carsten,
> 
> Thank you very much for your very useful help!
> I'm making some tries to test the orire options that probably will solve my 
> problem.
> 
> In order to do not waste resource, I thought using the rerun option of mdrun 
> I 
> can use the trajectories generated before, where my mistake was to allow the 
> rotation of my structure. 
> So I generated a new topol.tpr file changing the orire options in the mdp and 
> I made:
> 
> 1. mdrun -rerun ../traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -o trj.trr
> 2. trjcat -f traj.trr -o trajout.xtc
> 
> but in the trajout.xtc there is only one point as I can check for example 
Hm, I am not sure, maybe you need to use -x trj.xtc instead of -o trj.trr
to trigger output of all .xtc frames. How many frames are in ../traj.xtc?

Carsten

> with: 
> 3. g_gyrate -f trajout.xtc -s topol.tpr -n index.ndx
> 
> 
> Could you confirm me that it is not possible follow this idea?
> In fact I suppose that this method it is not applicable;  but  it is 
> necessary 
> to generate a new trajectory, because the angular restraints modify 
> completely 
> the trajectory.
> 
> Or, just to be sure,  did I not made the things in the right way? 
> 
> Thank you very much!
> 
> Anna
> 
> 
>> Messaggio originale
>> Da: ckut...@gwdg.de
>> Data: 23/07/2013 13.09
>> A: "battis...@libero.it", "Discussion list for GROMACS 
> users"
>> Ogg: Re: [gmx-users] Rotation Constraints - PMF
>> 
>> Hi Anna,
>> 
>> please have a look at the Enforced Rotation Section in the Gromacs 4.6 
> manual.
>> You can restrain the angle of rotation about an axis by setting the rotation 
> rate
>> to zero. There is also a 4.5 add-on available with rotational restraints in
>> the Gromacs git repository (branch "rotation"). For more info you may want to
>> look at this page:
>> 
>> http://www.mpibpc.mpg.de/grubmueller/rotation
>> 
>> Best,
>> Carsten
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 23, 2013, at 12:18 PM, battis...@libero.it wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear user and expert,
>>> I'd like ask you a suggestion about a problem that I will try present you 
> schematically.
>>> I have got a structure "s" and I have generated the topolgy file itp for it.
> A number of separate "s" in turn generate a complex structure A, that is 
> characterized by a cylindrical shape.
>>> Now, I constructed a system with two cylindrical structures, A and B (in 
> total made by 64 "s" structures), and I'd like make an Umbrella Sampling 
> calculation in order to study the PMF varying the distance between A and B.
>>> 
>>> My problem is that I'd like fix the orientation of the axis of each 
> structure A and B long the z axis, during the dynamics.
>>> So I need to put a force into the system or a constrain, such that when the 
> axis of A or B rotates respect to z axis, the force puts back the axis of the 
> structure in the z direction.
>>> 
>>> It this possible?  If it is so, could you tell me how to do that?
>>> Than you very much,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Dr. Carsten Kutzner
>> Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
>> Theoretical and Computational Biophysics
>> Am Fassberg 11, 37077 Goettingen, Germany
>> Tel. +49-551-2012313, Fax: +49-551-2012302
>> http://www.mpibpc.mpg.de/grubmueller/kutzner
>> http://www.mpibpc.mpg.de/grubmueller/sppexa
>> 
>> 
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Am Fassberg 11, 37077 Goettingen, Germany
Tel. +49-551-2012313, Fax: +49-551-2012302
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R: Re: [gmx-users] Rotation Constraints - PMF + rerun

2013-07-24 Thread battis...@libero.it
Dear Carsten,

Thank you very much for your very useful help!
I'm making some tries to test the orire options that probably will solve my 
problem.

In order to do not waste resource, I thought using the rerun option of mdrun I 
can use the trajectories generated before, where my mistake was to allow the 
rotation of my structure. 
So I generated a new topol.tpr file changing the orire options in the mdp and 
I made:

1. mdrun -rerun ../traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -o trj.trr
2. trjcat -f traj.trr -o trajout.xtc

but in the trajout.xtc there is only one point as I can check for example 
with: 
3. g_gyrate -f trajout.xtc -s topol.tpr -n index.ndx


Could you confirm me that it is not possible follow this idea?
In fact I suppose that this method it is not applicable;  but  it is necessary 
to generate a new trajectory, because the angular restraints modify completely 
the trajectory.

Or, just to be sure,  did I not made the things in the right way? 

Thank you very much!

Anna


>Messaggio originale
>Da: ckut...@gwdg.de
>Data: 23/07/2013 13.09
>A: "battis...@libero.it", "Discussion list for GROMACS 
users"
>Ogg: Re: [gmx-users] Rotation Constraints - PMF
>
>Hi Anna,
>
>please have a look at the Enforced Rotation Section in the Gromacs 4.6 
manual.
>You can restrain the angle of rotation about an axis by setting the rotation 
rate
>to zero. There is also a 4.5 add-on available with rotational restraints in
>the Gromacs git repository (branch "rotation"). For more info you may want to
>look at this page:
>
>http://www.mpibpc.mpg.de/grubmueller/rotation
>
>Best,
>  Carsten
>
>
>On Jul 23, 2013, at 12:18 PM, battis...@libero.it wrote:
>
>> Dear user and expert,
>> I'd like ask you a suggestion about a problem that I will try present you 
schematically.
>> I have got a structure "s" and I have generated the topolgy file itp for it.
A number of separate "s" in turn generate a complex structure A, that is 
characterized by a cylindrical shape.
>> Now, I constructed a system with two cylindrical structures, A and B (in 
total made by 64 "s" structures), and I'd like make an Umbrella Sampling 
calculation in order to study the PMF varying the distance between A and B.
>> 
>> My problem is that I'd like fix the orientation of the axis of each 
structure A and B long the z axis, during the dynamics.
>> So I need to put a force into the system or a constrain, such that when the 
axis of A or B rotates respect to z axis, the force puts back the axis of the 
structure in the z direction.
>> 
>> It this possible?  If it is so, could you tell me how to do that?
>> Than you very much,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
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>
>--
>Dr. Carsten Kutzner
>Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
>Theoretical and Computational Biophysics
>Am Fassberg 11, 37077 Goettingen, Germany
>Tel. +49-551-2012313, Fax: +49-551-2012302
>http://www.mpibpc.mpg.de/grubmueller/kutzner
>http://www.mpibpc.mpg.de/grubmueller/sppexa
>
>


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