[gmx-users] The No. of the CO2 melecules in top file can not be updated correctly

2012-10-05 Thread Bao Kai
Hi, Justin,

Thank you for your reply.

It is a little weird and inconvienient that genbox does not update the No.
of solute molecules.  Is it designed in this way? Does it have any reason
for that?

For my case, the  inear, 3-atom model of CO2 works pretty well. I got the
model from a paper from Zhenhao Duan.   I guess I will use this model for
the project before I get something wrong.

Best Regards,
Kai



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 On 10/4/12 5:29 PM, Bao Kai wrote:
  Hi, all,
 
  I am still working on the molecular simulation of CO2 and H2O mixture.
 
  The information of the molecules types and the force field model are
  all defined in the a.top file.
 
 1 [ defaults ]
 2 ; nbfunccomb-rule   gen-pairs   fudgeLJ fudgeQQ
 3 1  3  yes 0.50.5
 4 [ atomtypes ]
 5 ;   type  at.nummasschargeptypesigma
  epsilon
 6   CO   6 12.01100.5888A   0.27918
 0.2398
 7   OC   8 15.9994   -0.2944A   0.3
 0.6872
 8   OW   6 15.99940   -0.8476A 0.316557
 0.650194
 9   HW   1 1.008000.4238A  0.0
 0.0
10 [ moleculetype ]
11 ;name nrexcl
12 CO2 3
13 [atoms]
14 ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass
  
 
32 [moleculetype]
33 ; molname nrexcl
34 SOL 2
35 [atoms]
36 ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass
  ...
47 [system]
48 sparkling water
49 [molecules]
50 CO2 100
51 SOL  3000
 
  I create on co2.gro file to put one CO2 molecule inside.
 
  Then I used
 
  genbox -ci co2.gro -nmol 190 -o a.gro -box 7. -p a.top
 
  to put 190 CO2 molecules inside the box.
 
  Then I used
  genbox -cp a.gro -o b.gro -box 7  -cs -maxsol 9810 -p a.top
 
  to put 9810 H2O molecules inside the box.
 
  In the file a.top, the No. of the H2O was updated correctly, while the
  No. of the CO2 molecules was not updated.   The No. of the atoms in
  .gro files are correct.
 
  Can you please tell me the reason or how to solve it?
 

 genbox only updates water molecules in the topology.  Anything else is up
 to
 you.  Beware that a linear, 3-atom model of CO2 is probably not going to
 work
 due to issues with linear angles, as has been discussed frequently on the
 list.
   A more robust approach involves virtual sites.

 -Justin

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 Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
 Research Scientist
 Department of Biochemistry
 Virginia Tech
 Blacksburg, VA
 jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin

 

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Re: [gmx-users] The No. of the CO2 melecules in top file can not be updated correctly

2012-10-05 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/5/12 5:18 AM, Bao Kai wrote:

Hi, Justin,

Thank you for your reply.

It is a little weird and inconvienient that genbox does not update the No.
of solute molecules.  Is it designed in this way? Does it have any reason
for that?



The principal function of genbox is to solvate systems, usually with water.  The 
other things it can do are added on, but the code is designed around the most 
commmon usage.  Insertion of molecules is not guaranteed to work, so if a user 
specifies a number of molecules to add and then genbox cannot, then either it 
will update with topology with the actual number inserted (which may disagree 
with the command line, and users may ignore any failures and proceed) or the 
number requested (which may then fail for the opposite reason).  You can see how 
it becomes a slippery slope to try to make software out-think the user.



For my case, the  inear, 3-atom model of CO2 works pretty well. I got the
model from a paper from Zhenhao Duan.   I guess I will use this model for
the project before I get something wrong.



Good luck.  Linear angles are generally not stable.

-Justin

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Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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[gmx-users] The No. of the CO2 melecules in top file can not be updated correctly.

2012-10-04 Thread Bao Kai
Hi, all,

I am still working on the molecular simulation of CO2 and H2O mixture.

The information of the molecules types and the force field model are
all defined in the a.top file.

  1 [ defaults ]
  2 ; nbfunccomb-rule   gen-pairs   fudgeLJ fudgeQQ
  3 1  3  yes 0.50.5
  4 [ atomtypes ]
  5 ;   type  at.nummasschargeptypesigmaepsilon
  6   CO   6 12.01100.5888A   0.27918   0.2398
  7   OC   8 15.9994   -0.2944A   0.3   0.6872
  8   OW   6 15.99940   -0.8476A 0.316557 0.650194
  9   HW   1 1.008000.4238A  0.0   0.0
 10 [ moleculetype ]
 11 ;name nrexcl
 12 CO2 3
 13 [atoms]
 14 ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass


 32 [moleculetype]
 33 ; molname nrexcl
 34 SOL 2
 35 [atoms]
 36 ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass
...
 47 [system]
 48 sparkling water
 49 [molecules]
 50 CO2 100
 51 SOL  3000

I create on co2.gro file to put one CO2 molecule inside.

Then I used

genbox -ci co2.gro -nmol 190 -o a.gro -box 7. -p a.top

to put 190 CO2 molecules inside the box.

Then I used
genbox -cp a.gro -o b.gro -box 7  -cs -maxsol 9810 -p a.top

to put 9810 H2O molecules inside the box.

In the file a.top, the No. of the H2O was updated correctly, while the
No. of the CO2 molecules was not updated.   The No. of the atoms in
.gro files are correct.

Can you please tell me the reason or how to solve it?

Thank you very much.

Best Retards,
Kai
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Re: [gmx-users] The No. of the CO2 melecules in top file can not be updated correctly.

2012-10-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/4/12 5:29 PM, Bao Kai wrote:

Hi, all,

I am still working on the molecular simulation of CO2 and H2O mixture.

The information of the molecules types and the force field model are
all defined in the a.top file.

   1 [ defaults ]
   2 ; nbfunccomb-rule   gen-pairs   fudgeLJ fudgeQQ
   3 1  3  yes 0.50.5
   4 [ atomtypes ]
   5 ;   type  at.nummasschargeptypesigmaepsilon
   6   CO   6 12.01100.5888A   0.27918   0.2398
   7   OC   8 15.9994   -0.2944A   0.3   0.6872
   8   OW   6 15.99940   -0.8476A 0.316557 0.650194
   9   HW   1 1.008000.4238A  0.0   0.0
  10 [ moleculetype ]
  11 ;name nrexcl
  12 CO2 3
  13 [atoms]
  14 ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass


  32 [moleculetype]
  33 ; molname nrexcl
  34 SOL 2
  35 [atoms]
  36 ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass
...
  47 [system]
  48 sparkling water
  49 [molecules]
  50 CO2 100
  51 SOL  3000

I create on co2.gro file to put one CO2 molecule inside.

Then I used

genbox -ci co2.gro -nmol 190 -o a.gro -box 7. -p a.top

to put 190 CO2 molecules inside the box.

Then I used
genbox -cp a.gro -o b.gro -box 7  -cs -maxsol 9810 -p a.top

to put 9810 H2O molecules inside the box.

In the file a.top, the No. of the H2O was updated correctly, while the
No. of the CO2 molecules was not updated.   The No. of the atoms in
.gro files are correct.

Can you please tell me the reason or how to solve it?



genbox only updates water molecules in the topology.  Anything else is up to 
you.  Beware that a linear, 3-atom model of CO2 is probably not going to work 
due to issues with linear angles, as has been discussed frequently on the list. 
 A more robust approach involves virtual sites.


-Justin

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Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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