[gmx-users] VdW and Coulomb SR contribution to dVdl in thermodynamic integration

2008-04-16 Thread reich
Oh dear,

yes I do use a soft core potential and I overlooked that I set sc-power to
1. So even at lamda=0 there should be a soft core contribution to dV/dl!

Thanks Berk.

>I guess you are using soft-core interactions.
>In that case there are more terms in dV/dl, see eq. 4.120 in the manual.
Berk.
>> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:13:32 +0200
>> From: reich at mpikg.mpg.de
>> To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
>> Subject: [gmx-users] VdW and Coulomb SR contribution to dVdl in
thermodynamic integration
>>
>> Dear Gromacs-users,
>>
>> I have been doing a test thermodynamic integration for the conversion
of
>> methanol into a dummy molecule in water. I have been interested in the
contribution of the VdW and Coulomb short range interaction to dVdl.
According to equations 4.108 and 4.104, at lambda=0 (the
methanol-state)
>> the contributions should be the negative Lennard-Jones and Coulomb
short
>> range interaction energies between methanol and the surrounding water.
I
>> have been calculating the interaction energies with g_energy (choosing
LJ-SR:methanol-rest and Coul-SR:methanol-rest as options). For example for
>> a particular step in my trajectory I get
>>
>> -7.954321 kJ/mol for the Lennard-Jones interaction
>>
>> and -56.966656 kJ/mol for the Coulomb intercation between methanol and
water.
>>
>> So the contribution of the combined interactions to dVdl should be
>>
>> 64.921 kJ/mol
>>
>>
>> I have, however, also used the option sepdvdl with mdrun to get some
detailed information on dVdl during the simulation.
>> The line from the log-file giving me the contribution of Lennard-Jones
and
>> Coulomb short range interactions for the simulation step in question
is:
>>
>>   VdW and Coulomb SR particle-p. V -1.49467e+04  dVdl  1.01145e+03
>>
>> So the simulation output gives me a result that is two magnitudes
greater
>> than what I calculated! Is there anything wrong with my reasoning or do
you have any other clue why I end up with two different results?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Luther





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RE: [gmx-users] VdW and Coulomb SR contribution to dVdl in thermodynamic integration

2008-04-14 Thread Berk Hess
I guess you are using soft-core interactions.
In that case there are more terms in dV/dl, see eq. 4.120 in the manual.

Berk.


> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:13:32 +0200
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
> Subject: [gmx-users] VdW and Coulomb SR contribution to dVdl in thermodynamic 
> integration
> 
> Dear Gromacs-users,
> 
> I have been doing a test thermodynamic integration for the conversion of
> methanol into a dummy molecule in water. I have been interested in the
> contribution of the VdW and Coulomb short range interaction to dVdl.
> According to equations 4.108 and 4.104, at lambda=0 (the methanol-state)
> the contributions should be the negative Lennard-Jones and Coulomb short
> range interaction energies between methanol and the surrounding water. I
> have been calculating the interaction energies with g_energy (choosing
> LJ-SR:methanol-rest and Coul-SR:methanol-rest as options). For example for
> a particular step in my trajectory I get
> 
> -7.954321 kJ/mol for the Lennard-Jones interaction
> 
> and -56.966656 kJ/mol for the Coulomb intercation between methanol and water.
> 
> So the contribution of the combined interactions to dVdl should be
> 
> 64.921 kJ/mol
> 
> 
> I have, however, also used the option sepdvdl with mdrun to get some
> detailed information on dVdl during the simulation.
> The line from the log-file giving me the contribution of Lennard-Jones and
> Coulomb short range interactions for the simulation step in question is:
> 
>   VdW and Coulomb SR particle-p. V -1.49467e+04  dVdl  1.01145e+03
> 
> So the simulation output gives me a result that is two magnitudes greater
> than what I calculated! Is there anything wrong with my reasoning or do
> you have any other clue why I end up with two different results?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Luther
> 
> 
> 
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[gmx-users] VdW and Coulomb SR contribution to dVdl in thermodynamic integration

2008-04-14 Thread reich
Dear Gromacs-users,

I have been doing a test thermodynamic integration for the conversion of
methanol into a dummy molecule in water. I have been interested in the
contribution of the VdW and Coulomb short range interaction to dVdl.
According to equations 4.108 and 4.104, at lambda=0 (the methanol-state)
the contributions should be the negative Lennard-Jones and Coulomb short
range interaction energies between methanol and the surrounding water. I
have been calculating the interaction energies with g_energy (choosing
LJ-SR:methanol-rest and Coul-SR:methanol-rest as options). For example for
a particular step in my trajectory I get

-7.954321 kJ/mol for the Lennard-Jones interaction

and -56.966656 kJ/mol for the Coulomb intercation between methanol and water.

So the contribution of the combined interactions to dVdl should be

64.921 kJ/mol


I have, however, also used the option sepdvdl with mdrun to get some
detailed information on dVdl during the simulation.
The line from the log-file giving me the contribution of Lennard-Jones and
Coulomb short range interactions for the simulation step in question is:

  VdW and Coulomb SR particle-p. V -1.49467e+04  dVdl  1.01145e+03

So the simulation output gives me a result that is two magnitudes greater
than what I calculated! Is there anything wrong with my reasoning or do
you have any other clue why I end up with two different results?


Thanks

Luther



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