[gmx-users] Virtual Sites in a polymer backbone

2011-10-10 Thread Broadbent, Richard

I wish to keep certain parts of the backbone of my polymer rigid and planar,
as my primary interest is in the long length and timescale motion of the
polymer. 

I am attempting to utilise virtual sites as a means to keep aromatic groups
rigid and planar. My intention is to replace groups such as phenyl rings and
connected 5 and 6 member rings (similar to Phthalimide) with 3 reference
sites, then virtualise all the atomic sites. I'm going to use standard type
3 virtual sites and planned on constraining the relative positions of the 3
reference points. 

My plan is to pick sites such that the 3 eigenvalues of the moment of
inertia tensor, the centre of mass, and the total mass of the system are
conserved. As the system is two dimensional this amounts to a total of 6
non-linear equations for 9 variables which requires either additional
constraints or a physically motivated guess to solve.

I've searched the mailing list but have been unable to find any previous
attempts at this. I was wondering if anyone knew of a reference where this
had been attempted or if there had been any previous discussions about an
approach similar to this?

I am also very open to alternative approaches to holding these groups
planar.

Many thanks,

Richard

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Re: [gmx-users] Virtual Sites in a polymer backbone

2011-10-10 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Broadbent, Richard wrote:

I wish to keep certain parts of the backbone of my polymer rigid and planar,
as my primary interest is in the long length and timescale motion of the
polymer. 


I am attempting to utilise virtual sites as a means to keep aromatic groups
rigid and planar. My intention is to replace groups such as phenyl rings and
connected 5 and 6 member rings (similar to Phthalimide) with 3 reference
sites, then virtualise all the atomic sites. I'm going to use standard type
3 virtual sites and planned on constraining the relative positions of the 3
reference points. 


My plan is to pick sites such that the 3 eigenvalues of the moment of
inertia tensor, the centre of mass, and the total mass of the system are
conserved. As the system is two dimensional this amounts to a total of 6
non-linear equations for 9 variables which requires either additional
constraints or a physically motivated guess to solve.

I've searched the mailing list but have been unable to find any previous
attempts at this. I was wondering if anyone knew of a reference where this
had been attempted or if there had been any previous discussions about an
approach similar to this?

I am also very open to alternative approaches to holding these groups
planar.



Any particular reason why improper dihedrals would not be suitable?  They are 
significantly easier to implement.


-Justin


Many thanks,

Richard



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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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Re: [gmx-users] Virtual Sites in a polymer backbone

2011-10-10 Thread Broadbent, Richard
 
 Any particular reason why improper dihedrals would not be suitable?  They are
 significantly easier to implement.
Yes the force field parameters for the molecule are not known and I am
therefore fitting the parameters to Density Functional Theory. If I allow
the units to move out of plane even slightly their will be additional
parameters to fit which will make the problem unfeasibly computationally
expensive.

Thank you for the suggestion,

Richard

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