[gmx-users] What's the default pbc of Gromacs trajectories?

2008-07-28 Thread LuLanyuan

Hello,
I just noticed the -pbc option for the trjconv command had changed after a 
version 3.3.x.
The original -pbc inbox option were replaced by -pbc atom, -pbc mol etc.
As I remember for early versions of Gromacs the default pbc of output 
trajectories was whole,
which means no broken molecules. But I just found it's not the case for the 
latest version, since
I can see broken lipids for my membrane system using ngmx. I'm just wondering 
what's the
default pbc for the latest Gromacs version and whether there is a way to change 
it before MD
simulations.
Thanks for your help.
Lanyuan Lu
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Re: [gmx-users] What's the default pbc of Gromacs trajectories?

2008-07-28 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



LuLanyuan wrote:

Hello,
I just noticed the -pbc option for the trjconv command had changed after a 
version 3.3.x.
The original -pbc inbox option were replaced by -pbc atom, -pbc mol etc.
As I remember for early versions of Gromacs the default pbc of output trajectories was 
whole,
which means no broken molecules. But I just found it's not the case for the 
latest version, since
I can see broken lipids for my membrane system using ngmx. I'm just wondering 
what's the
default pbc for the latest Gromacs version and whether there is a way to change 
it before MD
simulations.


I think you are asking two separate questions.

From trjconv -h you can find the default behavior for PBC treatment, which is 
none, as in, leave the coordinates alone.


The PBC behavior of an MD simulation is specified in the .mdp file.  Removal of 
PBC from broken starting structures should be the first step in the simulation.


-Justin


Thanks for your help.
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RE: [gmx-users] What's the default pbc of Gromacs trajectories?

2008-07-28 Thread LuLanyuan




Thanks for your reply. I just checked the online manual for .mdp. But I didn't 
find
an option to change output pbc types. If I need the output trr file to be 
whole as
that from an older version, can I set it up anywhere?
I understand I can use trjconv to convert trr files. But usually trr files are 
huge and
the convertion takes time.
Thanks,
Lanyuan Lu

 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:07:30 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] What's the default pbc of Gromacs trajectories?
 
 
 
 LuLanyuan wrote:
  Hello,
  I just noticed the -pbc option for the trjconv command had changed after a 
  version 3.3.x.
  The original -pbc inbox option were replaced by -pbc atom, -pbc mol etc.
  As I remember for early versions of Gromacs the default pbc of output 
  trajectories was whole,
  which means no broken molecules. But I just found it's not the case for the 
  latest version, since
  I can see broken lipids for my membrane system using ngmx. I'm just 
  wondering what's the
  default pbc for the latest Gromacs version and whether there is a way to 
  change it before MD
  simulations.
 
 I think you are asking two separate questions.
 
  From trjconv -h you can find the default behavior for PBC treatment, which 
 is 
 none, as in, leave the coordinates alone.
 
 The PBC behavior of an MD simulation is specified in the .mdp file.  Removal 
 of 
 PBC from broken starting structures should be the first step in the 
 simulation.
 
 -Justin
 
  Thanks for your help.
  Lanyuan Lu
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Re: [gmx-users] What's the default pbc of Gromacs trajectories?

2008-07-28 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



LuLanyuan wrote:
Thanks for your reply. I just checked the online manual for .mdp. But I 
didn't find
an option to change output pbc types. If I need the output trr file to 
be whole as

that from an older version, can I set it up anywhere?


What you are probably seeing is a visualization artifact, but you haven't 
described things very thoroughly.  In fact, mdrun does not write broken 
molecules; everything should be whole.  Like I said before, as soon as you start 
a simulation, all broken molecules are made whole.  Such behavior is defined 
in the topology.  If there is a bond between two atoms at a given distance, 
mdrun knows these atoms are bonded, even if they initially appear across the box 
from each other.


I understand I can use trjconv to convert trr files. But usually trr 
files are huge and

the convertion takes time.


So write your output in .xtc format.  Use the nstxtcout option in the .mdp file.

-Justin


Thanks,
Lanyuan Lu

  Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:07:30 -0400
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] What's the default pbc of Gromacs trajectories?
 
 
 
  LuLanyuan wrote:
   Hello,
   I just noticed the -pbc option for the trjconv command had changed 
after a version 3.3.x.
   The original -pbc inbox option were replaced by -pbc atom, -pbc mol 
etc.
   As I remember for early versions of Gromacs the default pbc of 
output trajectories was whole,
   which means no broken molecules. But I! ! just found it's not the 
case for the latest version, since
   I can see broken lipids for my membrane system using ngmx. I'm 
just wondering what's the
   default pbc for the latest Gromacs version and whether there is a 
way to change it before MD

   simulations.
 
  I think you are asking two separate questions.
 
  From trjconv -h you can find the default behavior for PBC treatment, 
which is

  none, as in, leave the coordinates alone.
 
  The PBC behavior of an MD simulation is specified in the .mdp file. 
Removal of
  PBC from broken starting structures should be the first step in the 
simulation.

 
  -Justin
 
   Thanks for your help.
   Lanyuan Lu
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