[gmx-users] autocorrelation function of hydrogen bond : g_hbond

2013-04-09 Thread Nilesh Dhumal
Hello,

I am calculating the hydrogen bond autocorrelation function using g_hbond
for O-H---O hydrogen bond in system.

I made two groups 1. O-H atoms numbers 2. two oxygen atoms are interacting
with OH bond.

I am using default hydrogen bond criteria (donor-acceptor distance 3.5 and
angle 30) for calculating the autocorrelation function.

I am not getting a smooth exponential plot. I get a small bump in the plot.

Attached the autocorrelation plot.

Why there is not smooth exponential plot.

Nilesh




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Re: [gmx-users] autocorrelation function of hydrogen bond : g_hbond

2013-04-09 Thread Justin Lemkul
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Nilesh Dhumal ndhu...@andrew.cmu.eduwrote:

 Hello,

 I am calculating the hydrogen bond autocorrelation function using g_hbond
 for O-H---O hydrogen bond in system.

 I made two groups 1. O-H atoms numbers 2. two oxygen atoms are interacting
 with OH bond.

 I am using default hydrogen bond criteria (donor-acceptor distance 3.5 and
 angle 30) for calculating the autocorrelation function.

 I am not getting a smooth exponential plot. I get a small bump in the plot.

 Attached the autocorrelation plot.


Attachments are not allowed on this list. Please provide a link to the
image.


 Why there is not smooth exponential plot.


There is no way to tell, and even with the image there is still no way to
tell. How much sampling do you have? Have you looked at overall
convergence, etc?

-Justin

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Department of Biochemistry
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231-9080http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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Re: [gmx-users] autocorrelation function of hydrogen bond : g_hbond

2013-04-09 Thread Nilesh Dhumal


 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Nilesh Dhumal
 ndhu...@andrew.cmu.eduwrote:

 Hello,

 I am calculating the hydrogen bond autocorrelation function using
 g_hbond
 for O-H---O hydrogen bond in system.

 I made two groups 1. O-H atoms numbers 2. two oxygen atoms are
 interacting
 with OH bond.

 I am using default hydrogen bond criteria (donor-acceptor distance 3.5
 and
 angle 30) for calculating the autocorrelation function.

 I am not getting a smooth exponential plot. I get a small bump in the
 plot.

 Attached the autocorrelation plot.


 Attachments are not allowed on this list. Please provide a link to the
 image.


 Why there is not smooth exponential plot.


 There is no way to tell, and even with the image there is still no way to
 tell. How much sampling do you have? Have you looked at overall
 convergence, etc?


I saved the trajectory at 3fs.

It converged.

Nilesh





 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] autocorrelation function of hydrogen bond : g_hbond

2013-04-09 Thread Erik Marklund
There's a known oscillation in the ACF that occurs at ~100 fs or so. Is that 
what you see?

Erik

On 9 Apr 2013, at 18:02, Nilesh Dhumal ndhu...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote:

 
 
 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Nilesh Dhumal
 ndhu...@andrew.cmu.eduwrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am calculating the hydrogen bond autocorrelation function using
 g_hbond
 for O-H---O hydrogen bond in system.
 
 I made two groups 1. O-H atoms numbers 2. two oxygen atoms are
 interacting
 with OH bond.
 
 I am using default hydrogen bond criteria (donor-acceptor distance 3.5
 and
 angle 30) for calculating the autocorrelation function.
 
 I am not getting a smooth exponential plot. I get a small bump in the
 plot.
 
 Attached the autocorrelation plot.
 
 
 Attachments are not allowed on this list. Please provide a link to the
 image.
 
 
 Why there is not smooth exponential plot.
 
 
 There is no way to tell, and even with the image there is still no way to
 tell. How much sampling do you have? Have you looked at overall
 convergence, etc?
 
 
 I saved the trajectory at 3fs.
 
 It converged.
 
 Nilesh
 
 
 
 
 
 -Justin
 
 --
 
 
 
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 Research Scientist
 Department of Biochemistry
 Virginia Tech
 Blacksburg, VA
 jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540)
 231-9080http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] autocorrelation function of hydrogen bond : g_hbond

2013-04-09 Thread Nilesh Dhumal
Is oscillation is because of change in hydrogen bonded distance?

Do program consider the change in hydrogen bonded distance during ACF
calculation?

Nilesh

 There's a known oscillation in the ACF that occurs at ~100 fs or so. Is
 that what you see?

 Erik

 On 9 Apr 2013, at 18:02, Nilesh Dhumal ndhu...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote:



 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Nilesh Dhumal
 ndhu...@andrew.cmu.eduwrote:

 Hello,

 I am calculating the hydrogen bond autocorrelation function using
 g_hbond
 for O-H---O hydrogen bond in system.

 I made two groups 1. O-H atoms numbers 2. two oxygen atoms are
 interacting
 with OH bond.

 I am using default hydrogen bond criteria (donor-acceptor distance 3.5
 and
 angle 30) for calculating the autocorrelation function.

 I am not getting a smooth exponential plot. I get a small bump in the
 plot.

 Attached the autocorrelation plot.


 Attachments are not allowed on this list. Please provide a link to the
 image.


 Why there is not smooth exponential plot.


 There is no way to tell, and even with the image there is still no way
 to
 tell. How much sampling do you have? Have you looked at overall
 convergence, etc?


 I saved the trajectory at 3fs.

 It converged.

 Nilesh





 -Justin

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 Research Scientist
 Department of Biochemistry
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 jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540)
 231-9080http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin

 
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Re: [gmx-users] autocorrelation function of hydrogen bond : g_hbond

2013-04-09 Thread Paulo Netz
No, this oscillation is related to libration.
See, for instance

http://www.princeton.edu/~fhs/rahman/rahman.pdf

esp. Fig. 24 in this paper

Best regards

Paulo Netz


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Nilesh Dhumal ndhu...@andrew.cmu.eduwrote:

 Is oscillation is because of change in hydrogen bonded distance?

 Do program consider the change in hydrogen bonded distance during ACF
 calculation?

 Nilesh

  There's a known oscillation in the ACF that occurs at ~100 fs or so. Is
  that what you see?
 
  Erik
 
  On 9 Apr 2013, at 18:02, Nilesh Dhumal ndhu...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote:
 
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Nilesh Dhumal
  ndhu...@andrew.cmu.eduwrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I am calculating the hydrogen bond autocorrelation function using
  g_hbond
  for O-H---O hydrogen bond in system.
 
  I made two groups 1. O-H atoms numbers 2. two oxygen atoms are
  interacting
  with OH bond.
 
  I am using default hydrogen bond criteria (donor-acceptor distance 3.5
  and
  angle 30) for calculating the autocorrelation function.
 
  I am not getting a smooth exponential plot. I get a small bump in the
  plot.
 
  Attached the autocorrelation plot.
 
 
  Attachments are not allowed on this list. Please provide a link to the
  image.
 
 
  Why there is not smooth exponential plot.
 
 
  There is no way to tell, and even with the image there is still no way
  to
  tell. How much sampling do you have? Have you looked at overall
  convergence, etc?
 
 
  I saved the trajectory at 3fs.
 
  It converged.
 
  Nilesh
 
 
 
 
 
  -Justin
 
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  Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
  Research Scientist
  Department of Biochemistry
  Virginia Tech
  Blacksburg, VA
  jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540)
  231-9080http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
 
  
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