Re: [gmx-users] carbon atom not found by pdb2gmx and modification of specbond.dat

2007-05-14 Thread Nicolas Sapay

Thnaks for your answer,

I have solved the problem with the lacking CD1 atom. There was a weid 
end of line the line jus before. But pdb2gmx is still unable to link 
correctly the ZN2 residue with the 4 CYS. The distance between SG and ZN 
atoms are computed correctly (I have the bon lenght to 0.25 nm) and 
SG-ZN bonds has been introduced in the topology file.  However, pdb2gmx 
also introduces bonds between the ZN and CB, HB1, HB2 atoms of the 4 
Cys, though theses distances don't appear in the distance matrix. I have 
modified specbond.dat as following :


   CYS SG  1   ZN2 ZN  1   0.2 CYSZZN2
   (previsously : CYS SG  1   ZN2 ZN  4  
   0.2 CYSZZN2)


Supposing that 4 means create 4 bond with, but nothing change. Any 
suggestion are welcomed!


Thanks

Nicolas

David van der Spoel wrote:

Nicolas Sapay wrote:

Hello,

I'm trying to create a topology file of a system made of a protein 
homodimer (2x198 residues), water (TIP3P x 900) and some ions (CLA, 
SOD, ZN2). The system has been initially built with CHARMM and all 
hydrogens are already included. I use an implementation of CHARMM for 
Gromacs (i.e. ffcharmm.rtp, .itp, .hdb, .tdb). My objective is to 
check if it is easy to use pdb files previously built with CHARMM 
with my implementation of the CHARMM ff in Gromacs. That is why I use 
a difficult system with dimer, cys-cys bridges, zinc finger, etc...


I use the following command  to create the topology file:

   pdb2gmx -f ns5a.pdb -o ns5a.gro -p ns5a.top -water tip3p -ignh -ff
   charmm27


I have a first problem with the 2 zinc fingers. pdb2gmx find the 2 
cys-cys bridges without trouble but failed with the bonds between the 
ZN2s and the CYSs. I have modified specbond.dat as following:


   CYS SG  1   ZN2 ZN  4   0.2 CYSZZN2


with ZN2, the residue name of the Zn ion and CYSZ, the residue name 
for coordinated CYSs. Both residues are defined in ffcharmm27.rtp. 
However, I haven't found documentation on how to modify specbond.dat. 
So, I have guessed what the different parameters mean and I'm pretty 
sure to have done something wrong. Can someone correct my specbond 
definition and tell me what the different parameters signify?
the 0.2 is the bondlength and currently there is a hard toloerance of 
10% on that. Check the special bond matrix to see what happens.




The second problem comes when pdb2gmx try to add hydrogens. It 
crashes with the following message :

WARNING: atom CD1 not found in residue 84 while adding atom
---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: genhydro.c, line: 304

Fatal error:
Atom CD1 not found in residue TRP84 while adding hydrogens
---


is your ffcharm27.hdb file correct? since you already have hydrogens 
you probably don't need to add them.




However, the CD1 atom is indeed present in the pdb file and TRP 
residues upstream to TRP84 are perfectly treated. Additionally HD1 
atoms is properly defined in the .hdb file. I have tried to create 
the .top file on a single monomer and it works perfectly. I have also 
tried to merge the homodimer using the -merge option of pdb2gmx but 
it crashes again on the second TRP84... Any suggestion are welcomed!


Thanks

Nicolas







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2500 University drive NW, Calgary AB, T2N 1N4, Canada
Tel: (403) 220-6869
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Re: [gmx-users] carbon atom not found by pdb2gmx and modification of specbond.dat

2007-05-14 Thread Nicolas Sapay
Sorry, the message has been sent too fast, the 4 bonds have been 
correctly created now. So, the correct specbond line is:

CYS SG  1   ZN2 ZN  1   0.25 CYSZZN

There is still an angles that lacks (the S-ZN-S angle), but I can add it 
manually.


Nicolas

Sorry for the inconvenience

Nicolas

Nicolas Sapay wrote:

Thnaks for your answer,

I have solved the problem with the lacking CD1 atom. There was a weid 
end of line the line jus before. But pdb2gmx is still unable to link 
correctly the ZN2 residue with the 4 CYS. The distance between SG and 
ZN atoms are computed correctly (I have the bon lenght to 0.25 nm) and 
SG-ZN bonds has been introduced in the topology file.  However, 
pdb2gmx also introduces bonds between the ZN and CB, HB1, HB2 atoms of 
the 4 Cys, though theses distances don't appear in the distance 
matrix. I have modified specbond.dat as following :


   CYS SG  1   ZN2 ZN  1   0.2 CYSZZN2
   (previsously : CYS SG  1   ZN2 ZN  4 
0.2 CYSZZN2)


Supposing that 4 means create 4 bond with, but nothing change. Any 
suggestion are welcomed!


Thanks

Nicolas

David van der Spoel wrote:

Nicolas Sapay wrote:

Hello,

I'm trying to create a topology file of a system made of a protein 
homodimer (2x198 residues), water (TIP3P x 900) and some ions (CLA, 
SOD, ZN2). The system has been initially built with CHARMM and all 
hydrogens are already included. I use an implementation of CHARMM 
for Gromacs (i.e. ffcharmm.rtp, .itp, .hdb, .tdb). My objective is 
to check if it is easy to use pdb files previously built with CHARMM 
with my implementation of the CHARMM ff in Gromacs. That is why I 
use a difficult system with dimer, cys-cys bridges, zinc finger, etc...


I use the following command  to create the topology file:

   pdb2gmx -f ns5a.pdb -o ns5a.gro -p ns5a.top -water tip3p -ignh -ff
   charmm27


I have a first problem with the 2 zinc fingers. pdb2gmx find the 2 
cys-cys bridges without trouble but failed with the bonds between 
the ZN2s and the CYSs. I have modified specbond.dat as following:


   CYS SG  1   ZN2 ZN  4   0.2 CYSZZN2


with ZN2, the residue name of the Zn ion and CYSZ, the residue name 
for coordinated CYSs. Both residues are defined in ffcharmm27.rtp. 
However, I haven't found documentation on how to modify 
specbond.dat. So, I have guessed what the different parameters mean 
and I'm pretty sure to have done something wrong. Can someone 
correct my specbond definition and tell me what the different 
parameters signify?
the 0.2 is the bondlength and currently there is a hard toloerance of 
10% on that. Check the special bond matrix to see what happens.




The second problem comes when pdb2gmx try to add hydrogens. It 
crashes with the following message :

WARNING: atom CD1 not found in residue 84 while adding atom
---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: genhydro.c, line: 304

Fatal error:
Atom CD1 not found in residue TRP84 while adding hydrogens
---


is your ffcharm27.hdb file correct? since you already have hydrogens 
you probably don't need to add them.




However, the CD1 atom is indeed present in the pdb file and TRP 
residues upstream to TRP84 are perfectly treated. Additionally HD1 
atoms is properly defined in the .hdb file. I have tried to create 
the .top file on a single monomer and it works perfectly. I have 
also tried to merge the homodimer using the -merge option of pdb2gmx 
but it crashes again on the second TRP84... Any suggestion are 
welcomed!


Thanks

Nicolas










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2500 University drive NW, Calgary AB, T2N 1N4, Canada
Tel: (403) 220-6869
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Re: [gmx-users] carbon atom not found by pdb2gmx and modification of specbond.dat

2007-05-14 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar

Hi Nicolas,

Have a look at the ff*bon.itp of your choice and go all the way to the
bottom. You can see there how the connections are handled further for
e.g. heme and can add the angles and dihedrals you want.

Also, you report bonds between the zinc and a number of other atoms.
This is probably due to the viewer you use, which bases connectivity
on the distances between atoms. This has nothing to do with a
topology.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On 5/15/07, Nicolas Sapay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sorry, the message has been sent too fast, the 4 bonds have been
correctly created now. So, the correct specbond line is:
CYS SG  1   ZN2 ZN  1   0.25 CYSZZN

There is still an angles that lacks (the S-ZN-S angle), but I can add it
manually.

Nicolas

Sorry for the inconvenience

Nicolas

Nicolas Sapay wrote:
 Thnaks for your answer,

 I have solved the problem with the lacking CD1 atom. There was a weid
 end of line the line jus before. But pdb2gmx is still unable to link
 correctly the ZN2 residue with the 4 CYS. The distance between SG and
 ZN atoms are computed correctly (I have the bon lenght to 0.25 nm) and
 SG-ZN bonds has been introduced in the topology file.  However,
 pdb2gmx also introduces bonds between the ZN and CB, HB1, HB2 atoms of
 the 4 Cys, though theses distances don't appear in the distance
 matrix. I have modified specbond.dat as following :

CYS SG  1   ZN2 ZN  1   0.2 CYSZZN2
(previsously : CYS SG  1   ZN2 ZN  4
 0.2 CYSZZN2)

 Supposing that 4 means create 4 bond with, but nothing change. Any
 suggestion are welcomed!

 Thanks

 Nicolas

 David van der Spoel wrote:
 Nicolas Sapay wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm trying to create a topology file of a system made of a protein
 homodimer (2x198 residues), water (TIP3P x 900) and some ions (CLA,
 SOD, ZN2). The system has been initially built with CHARMM and all
 hydrogens are already included. I use an implementation of CHARMM
 for Gromacs (i.e. ffcharmm.rtp, .itp, .hdb, .tdb). My objective is
 to check if it is easy to use pdb files previously built with CHARMM
 with my implementation of the CHARMM ff in Gromacs. That is why I
 use a difficult system with dimer, cys-cys bridges, zinc finger, etc...

 I use the following command  to create the topology file:

pdb2gmx -f ns5a.pdb -o ns5a.gro -p ns5a.top -water tip3p -ignh -ff
charmm27


 I have a first problem with the 2 zinc fingers. pdb2gmx find the 2
 cys-cys bridges without trouble but failed with the bonds between
 the ZN2s and the CYSs. I have modified specbond.dat as following:

CYS SG  1   ZN2 ZN  4   0.2 CYSZZN2


 with ZN2, the residue name of the Zn ion and CYSZ, the residue name
 for coordinated CYSs. Both residues are defined in ffcharmm27.rtp.
 However, I haven't found documentation on how to modify
 specbond.dat. So, I have guessed what the different parameters mean
 and I'm pretty sure to have done something wrong. Can someone
 correct my specbond definition and tell me what the different
 parameters signify?
 the 0.2 is the bondlength and currently there is a hard toloerance of
 10% on that. Check the special bond matrix to see what happens.


 The second problem comes when pdb2gmx try to add hydrogens. It
 crashes with the following message :
 WARNING: atom CD1 not found in residue 84 while adding atom
 ---
 Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
 Source code file: genhydro.c, line: 304

 Fatal error:
 Atom CD1 not found in residue TRP84 while adding hydrogens
 ---

 is your ffcharm27.hdb file correct? since you already have hydrogens
 you probably don't need to add them.


 However, the CD1 atom is indeed present in the pdb file and TRP
 residues upstream to TRP84 are perfectly treated. Additionally HD1
 atoms is properly defined in the .hdb file. I have tried to create
 the .top file on a single monomer and it works perfectly. I have
 also tried to merge the homodimer using the -merge option of pdb2gmx
 but it crashes again on the second TRP84... Any suggestion are
 welcomed!

 Thanks

 Nicolas







--
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University of Calgary, Dept. of Biological Sciences
2500 University drive NW, Calgary AB, T2N 1N4, Canada
Tel: (403) 220-6869
Fax: (403) 289-9311

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Re: [gmx-users] carbon atom not found by pdb2gmx and modification of specbond.dat

2007-05-12 Thread David van der Spoel

Nicolas Sapay wrote:

Hello,

I'm trying to create a topology file of a system made of a protein 
homodimer (2x198 residues), water (TIP3P x 900) and some ions (CLA, SOD, 
ZN2). The system has been initially built with CHARMM and all hydrogens 
are already included. I use an implementation of CHARMM for Gromacs 
(i.e. ffcharmm.rtp, .itp, .hdb, .tdb). My objective is to check if it is 
easy to use pdb files previously built with CHARMM with my 
implementation of the CHARMM ff in Gromacs. That is why I use a 
difficult system with dimer, cys-cys bridges, zinc finger, etc...


I use the following command  to create the topology file:

   pdb2gmx -f ns5a.pdb -o ns5a.gro -p ns5a.top -water tip3p -ignh -ff
   charmm27


I have a first problem with the 2 zinc fingers. pdb2gmx find the 2 
cys-cys bridges without trouble but failed with the bonds between the 
ZN2s and the CYSs. I have modified specbond.dat as following:


   CYS SG  1   ZN2 ZN  4   0.2 CYSZZN2


with ZN2, the residue name of the Zn ion and CYSZ, the residue name for 
coordinated CYSs. Both residues are defined in ffcharmm27.rtp. However, 
I haven't found documentation on how to modify specbond.dat. So, I have 
guessed what the different parameters mean and I'm pretty sure to have 
done something wrong. Can someone correct my specbond definition and 
tell me what the different parameters signify?
the 0.2 is the bondlength and currently there is a hard toloerance of 
10% on that. Check the special bond matrix to see what happens.




The second problem comes when pdb2gmx try to add hydrogens. It crashes 
with the following message :

WARNING: atom CD1 not found in residue 84 while adding atom
---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: genhydro.c, line: 304

Fatal error:
Atom CD1 not found in residue TRP84 while adding hydrogens
---


is your ffcharm27.hdb file correct? since you already have hydrogens you 
probably don't need to add them.




However, the CD1 atom is indeed present in the pdb file and TRP residues 
upstream to TRP84 are perfectly treated. Additionally HD1 atoms is 
properly defined in the .hdb file. I have tried to create the .top file 
on a single monomer and it works perfectly. I have also tried to merge 
the homodimer using the -merge option of pdb2gmx but it crashes again on 
the second TRP84... Any suggestion are welcomed!


Thanks

Nicolas




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[gmx-users] carbon atom not found by pdb2gmx and modification of specbond.dat

2007-05-11 Thread Nicolas Sapay

Hello,

I'm trying to create a topology file of a system made of a protein 
homodimer (2x198 residues), water (TIP3P x 900) and some ions (CLA, SOD, 
ZN2). The system has been initially built with CHARMM and all hydrogens 
are already included. I use an implementation of CHARMM for Gromacs 
(i.e. ffcharmm.rtp, .itp, .hdb, .tdb). My objective is to check if it is 
easy to use pdb files previously built with CHARMM with my 
implementation of the CHARMM ff in Gromacs. That is why I use a 
difficult system with dimer, cys-cys bridges, zinc finger, etc...


I use the following command  to create the topology file:

   pdb2gmx -f ns5a.pdb -o ns5a.gro -p ns5a.top -water tip3p -ignh -ff
   charmm27


I have a first problem with the 2 zinc fingers. pdb2gmx find the 2 
cys-cys bridges without trouble but failed with the bonds between the 
ZN2s and the CYSs. I have modified specbond.dat as following:


   CYS SG  1   ZN2 ZN  4   0.2 CYSZZN2


with ZN2, the residue name of the Zn ion and CYSZ, the residue name for 
coordinated CYSs. Both residues are defined in ffcharmm27.rtp. However, 
I haven't found documentation on how to modify specbond.dat. So, I have 
guessed what the different parameters mean and I'm pretty sure to have 
done something wrong. Can someone correct my specbond definition and 
tell me what the different parameters signify?


The second problem comes when pdb2gmx try to add hydrogens. It crashes 
with the following message :

WARNING: atom CD1 not found in residue 84 while adding atom
---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: genhydro.c, line: 304

Fatal error:
Atom CD1 not found in residue TRP84 while adding hydrogens
---

However, the CD1 atom is indeed present in the pdb file and TRP residues 
upstream to TRP84 are perfectly treated. Additionally HD1 atoms is 
properly defined in the .hdb file. I have tried to create the .top file 
on a single monomer and it works perfectly. I have also tried to merge 
the homodimer using the -merge option of pdb2gmx but it crashes again on 
the second TRP84... Any suggestion are welcomed!


Thanks

Nicolas

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University of Calgary, Dept. of Biological Sciences
2500 University drive NW, Calgary AB, T2N 1N4, Canada
Tel: (403) 220-6869
Fax: (403) 289-9311

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