[gmx-users] g_hbond/g_sas - how is it calculated?

2011-06-08 Thread Marzinek, Jan
Hi,



I have a question related to the calculation of hydrogen bonds in Gromacs. As I 
read in Manual it comes from the distance between donor and acceptor ( = 0.35 
nm) and the angle =30 degr beween hydrogen and acceptor. The question is - why 
30 degr? How is it related to the reality?



The second thing is the claculation of the accessible surface area (g_sas) of 
the molecule for instance? It is not explained in manual and I am really 
curious how g_sas makes these calculations.

As my supervisors do not know the gromacs their questions are always about such 
details :)

However, I think it is really important to understand what you are really doing 
using commands in Gromacs which provide you with really detailed results.



Thank you in advance,



Jan


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Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond/g_sas - how is it calculated?

2011-06-08 Thread lina
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Marzinek, Jan
j.marzine...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
 Hi,



 I have a question related to the calculation of hydrogen bonds in Gromacs.
 As I read in Manual it comes from the distance between donor and acceptor (
 = 0.35 nm) and the angle =30 degr beween hydrogen and acceptor. The
 question is - why 30 degr? How is it related to the reality?

It's a default value, you can change it when you need.




 The second thing is the claculation of the accessible surface area
 (g_sas) of the molecule for instance? It is not explained in manual and I am
 really curious how g_sas makes these calculations.

 As my supervisors do not know the gromacs their questions are always about
 such details :)

 However, I think it is really important to understand what you are really
 doing using commands in Gromacs which provide you with really detailed
 results.

All I can say is that, practice and problems are a good teacher.




 Thank you in advance,



 Jan


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Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond/g_sas - how is it calculated?

2011-06-08 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Marzinek, Jan wrote:

Hi,

 

I have a question related to the calculation of hydrogen bonds in 
Gromacs. As I read in Manual it comes from the distance between donor 
and acceptor ( = 0.35 nm) and the angle =30 degr beween hydrogen and 
acceptor. The question is - why 30 degr? How is it related to the reality?


 


Hydrogen bond strength decreases with distance between the donor and acceptor 
and with deviation from linearity.  A survey of crystallographic structures 
shows that these are generally accepted criteria.  There is literature on this 
that dates back many decades.




The second thing is the claculation of the accessible surface area 
(g_sas) of the molecule for instance? It is not explained in manual and 
I am really curious how g_sas makes these calculations.




I'd suggest you look at the citation provided in the PLEASE READ AND CITE THE 
FOLLOWING REFERENCE section printed when running g_sas :)


-Justin

As my supervisors do not know the gromacs their questions are always 
about such details :)


However, I think it is really important to understand what you are 
really doing using commands in Gromacs which provide you with really 
detailed results.


 


Thank you in advance,

 


Jan

 



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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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