Re: [gmx-users] g_lie and ligand only simulation
Dear users, Sorry for repeating the same question. I just wanted to know whether is it ok if I have rlist rcoulomb in ligand-water and prot-lig-water rerun md (with RF-0) while having rlist = rcoulomb in the original simulation using PME? Thank you Regards Kavya On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote: Dear users, When the simulation was carried out with PME rcoulomb was set equal to rlist. But when I need to to ligand-water simulation without PME (with RF-0) then it requires rlist greater by 0.1-0.3 than rcoulomb. So if I rerun protein-ligand-water simulation there could be more differences in the energies isnt it? Thank you Regards Kavya On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote: Ok thank you. I thought it was for protein-ligand-water that needs to be rerun without PME. Thanks Regards Kavya On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 11/2/13 12:14 PM, Kavyashree M wrote: Sir, Thank you. Should the ligand-water MD be done without PME? I already answered this. Please read my previous reply again. -Justin Thank you Regards Kavya On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 11/2/13 1:22 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear Users, Its mentioned in the list that it would be wrong to use g_lie on a simulation which uses PME. So kindly suggest any other way available to get the free energy of ligand binding other using g_lie? The original simulation should be done with PME, then the energies recalculated using mdrun -rerun without PME. More detailed methods are available in the list archive; this topic gets discussed a lot. -Justin -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/ Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/ Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_lie and ligand only simulation
On 11/6/13 5:47 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear users, Sorry for repeating the same question. I just wanted to know whether is it ok if I have rlist rcoulomb in ligand-water and prot-lig-water rerun md (with RF-0) while having rlist = rcoulomb in the original simulation using PME? The energies are inherently going to be different because you are evaluating nonbonded energies with different methods. Typically, I think people just use long cutoffs for the recalculation. -Justin -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_lie and ligand only simulation
Thank you.. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 11/6/13 5:47 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear users, Sorry for repeating the same question. I just wanted to know whether is it ok if I have rlist rcoulomb in ligand-water and prot-lig-water rerun md (with RF-0) while having rlist = rcoulomb in the original simulation using PME? The energies are inherently going to be different because you are evaluating nonbonded energies with different methods. Typically, I think people just use long cutoffs for the recalculation. -Justin -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/ Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_lie and ligand only simulation
Dear users, When the simulation was carried out with PME rcoulomb was set equal to rlist. But when I need to to ligand-water simulation without PME (with RF-0) then it requires rlist greater by 0.1-0.3 than rcoulomb. So if I rerun protein-ligand-water simulation there could be more differences in the energies isnt it? Thank you Regards Kavya On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote: Ok thank you. I thought it was for protein-ligand-water that needs to be rerun without PME. Thanks Regards Kavya On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 11/2/13 12:14 PM, Kavyashree M wrote: Sir, Thank you. Should the ligand-water MD be done without PME? I already answered this. Please read my previous reply again. -Justin Thank you Regards Kavya On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 11/2/13 1:22 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear Users, Its mentioned in the list that it would be wrong to use g_lie on a simulation which uses PME. So kindly suggest any other way available to get the free energy of ligand binding other using g_lie? The original simulation should be done with PME, then the energies recalculated using mdrun -rerun without PME. More detailed methods are available in the list archive; this topic gets discussed a lot. -Justin -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/ Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/ Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_lie and ligand only simulation
On 11/2/13 1:00 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear Gromacs users, I have a protein-ligand in water simulation (Gmx 4.5.3), for calculating free energy of ligand binding, a separate simulation of ligand in water simulation is required (which I read from the list). The question is the protein-ligand is simulated as a dimeric system so is it necessary to simulate the ligand in water as a dimer too. Only if the ligands interact as a dimer in the bound state. If the bind in distinct binding sites within the protein monomers, then no, that wouldn't make much sense to do. -Justin -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_lie and ligand only simulation
On 11/2/13 1:22 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear Users, Its mentioned in the list that it would be wrong to use g_lie on a simulation which uses PME. So kindly suggest any other way available to get the free energy of ligand binding other using g_lie? The original simulation should be done with PME, then the energies recalculated using mdrun -rerun without PME. More detailed methods are available in the list archive; this topic gets discussed a lot. -Justin -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_lie and ligand only simulation
Sir, Thank you. Should the ligand-water MD be done without PME? Thank you Regards Kavya On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 11/2/13 1:22 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear Users, Its mentioned in the list that it would be wrong to use g_lie on a simulation which uses PME. So kindly suggest any other way available to get the free energy of ligand binding other using g_lie? The original simulation should be done with PME, then the energies recalculated using mdrun -rerun without PME. More detailed methods are available in the list archive; this topic gets discussed a lot. -Justin -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/ Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_lie and ligand only simulation
On 11/2/13 12:14 PM, Kavyashree M wrote: Sir, Thank you. Should the ligand-water MD be done without PME? I already answered this. Please read my previous reply again. -Justin Thank you Regards Kavya On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 11/2/13 1:22 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear Users, Its mentioned in the list that it would be wrong to use g_lie on a simulation which uses PME. So kindly suggest any other way available to get the free energy of ligand binding other using g_lie? The original simulation should be done with PME, then the energies recalculated using mdrun -rerun without PME. More detailed methods are available in the list archive; this topic gets discussed a lot. -Justin -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/ Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_lie and ligand only simulation
Ok thank you. I thought it was for protein-ligand-water that needs to be rerun without PME. Thanks Regards Kavya On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 11/2/13 12:14 PM, Kavyashree M wrote: Sir, Thank you. Should the ligand-water MD be done without PME? I already answered this. Please read my previous reply again. -Justin Thank you Regards Kavya On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 11/2/13 1:22 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear Users, Its mentioned in the list that it would be wrong to use g_lie on a simulation which uses PME. So kindly suggest any other way available to get the free energy of ligand binding other using g_lie? The original simulation should be done with PME, then the energies recalculated using mdrun -rerun without PME. More detailed methods are available in the list archive; this topic gets discussed a lot. -Justin -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/ Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/ Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_lie and ligand only simulation
Dear Gromacs users, I have a protein-ligand in water simulation (Gmx 4.5.3), for calculating free energy of ligand binding, a separate simulation of ligand in water simulation is required (which I read from the list). The question is the protein-ligand is simulated as a dimeric system so is it necessary to simulate the ligand in water as a dimer too. Please clarify. Thank you Regards Kavya -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_lie and ligand only simulation
Dear Users, Its mentioned in the list that it would be wrong to use g_lie on a simulation which uses PME. So kindly suggest any other way available to get the free energy of ligand binding other using g_lie? Thank you Regards kavya -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
