Re: [gmx-users] gromacs result

2007-09-28 Thread David van der Spoel

Maik Goette wrote:

Right, but I can just warn anyone.
Trying to use TI on a docked structure is insanity...
The docked structure is an approximation in its best case (more likely 
its simply crap). Applying a free energy calculation towards such a 
structure will give you everything...but sure not the the correct free 
energy of bindingexcept you are very luckyIF you are that lucky, 
play lottery instead and enjoy life ;)


In fact it's (citating Mark) another expensive random number generator...


I think you're exaggerating a bit. Docking works quite well if you do it 
correctly, that is many (>=100) tries.

See my website below for some useful publications on docking...

--
David.

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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs result

2007-09-28 Thread Maik Goette

Right, but I can just warn anyone.
Trying to use TI on a docked structure is insanity...
The docked structure is an approximation in its best case (more likely 
its simply crap). Applying a free energy calculation towards such a 
structure will give you everything...but sure not the the correct free 
energy of bindingexcept you are very luckyIF you are that lucky, 
play lottery instead and enjoy life ;)


In fact it's (citating Mark) another expensive random number generator...

Regards

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Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
Theoretical & computational biophysics department
Am Fassberg 11
37077 Goettingen
Germany
Tel.  : ++49 551 201 2310
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Email : mgoette[at]mpi-bpc.mpg.de
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Mark Abraham wrote:

mahbubeh zarrabi wrote:

Dear all
I have 3 complexes of docking.(one receptor with 3
different ligands).I studied MD of 3 complexes in 15
ns by gromacs.how can i compare binding energy and
affinity of 3 ligands with receptor.(how can i
analysis gromacs result)


Shouldn't you have asked this question before designing your
simulations? :-) You can't measure binding affinity without taking a
difference between "before" and "after", which you don't seem to have.
You probably need to look at literature on thermodynamic integration, or
some such.

Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs result

2007-09-27 Thread Mark Abraham

mahbubeh zarrabi wrote:

Dear all
I have 3 complexes of docking.(one receptor with 3
different ligands).I studied MD of 3 complexes in 15
ns by gromacs.how can i compare binding energy and
affinity of 3 ligands with receptor.(how can i
analysis gromacs result)


Shouldn't you have asked this question before designing your
simulations? :-) You can't measure binding affinity without taking a
difference between "before" and "after", which you don't seem to have.
You probably need to look at literature on thermodynamic integration, or
some such.

Mark

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[gmx-users] gromacs result

2007-09-27 Thread mahbubeh zarrabi
Dear all
I have 3 complexes of docking.(one receptor with 3
different ligands).I studied MD of 3 complexes in 15
ns by gromacs.how can i compare binding energy and
affinity of 3 ligands with receptor.(how can i
analysis gromacs result)
thanks 


   

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