Re: [gmx-users] gromacs versus amber boxsize -correction-

2008-01-29 Thread Florian Haberl
Hi,

On Tuesday, 29. January 2008 13:14, servaas michielssens wrote:
> I made a mistake in the numbers, but the question remains:
>
> I ran the following command in gromacs:
> editconf -bt dodecahedron -f p61_vac_gro.gro -o p61_vac_dod.gro -d 0.8

With -d and a triclinic box the size of the system in the x, y and z
directions is used. With -d and cubic, dodecahedron or octahedron boxes, the
dimensions are set to the diameter of the system (largest distance between
atoms) plus twice the specified distance. [from editconf -h]

>
> The equivalent command in amber:
> solvateoct p61_vac.pdb TIP3PBOX 8.0

generates a truncated octahedron periodic box

>
> As far as I understand this, both command created a box were the edges are
> 0.8 nm away from the solute. But the resulting image distance (d in the
> manual) in gromacs is: 121.3092
> and in amber:
> 110.5103716
>
> This is makes a hugde difference in the number of water atoms to add.
> Does anyone has an explanation for this paradox?

so you generate two different boxsizes or types.

>
>
> kind regards,
>
> servaas

greetings,

Florian

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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs versus amber boxsize

2008-01-29 Thread Xavier Periole

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:57:13 +0100
 "servaas michielssens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I ran the following command in gromacs:
editconf -bt dodecahedron -f p61_vac_gro.gro -o p61_vac_dod.gro -d 0.8

The equivalent command in amber:
solvateoct p61_vac.pdb TIP3PBOX 8.0

As far as I understand this, both command created a box were the edges are 
0.8 nm away from the solute. But the resulting image distance (d in the 
manual) in gromacs is:

121.3092
and in amber:
85.9385483


the box size is changing that fast? Which one is the right value?



This is makes a hugde difference in the number of water atoms to add.
Does anyone has an explanation for this paradox?


kind regards,

servaas


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XAvier Periole - PhD

NMR & Molecular Dynamics Group
University of Groningen
The Netherlands
http://md.chem.rug.nl/~periole
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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs versus amber boxsize -correction-

2008-01-29 Thread Xavier Periole

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:14:21 +0100
 "servaas michielssens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I made a mistake in the numbers, but the question remains:

I ran the following command in gromacs:
editconf -bt dodecahedron -f p61_vac_gro.gro -o p61_vac_dod.gro -d 0.8

The equivalent command in amber:
solvateoct p61_vac.pdb TIP3PBOX 8.0


is there any reorientation in volved?
 
As far as I understand this, both command created a box were the edges are 
0.8 nm away from the solute. But the resulting image distance (d in the 
manual) 


amber or gromacs manual?


in gromacs is:
121.3092
and in amber:
110.5103716


Are the d the same in both programs?
The definitions of dodecahedron are different in gromacs and gromos.
could be a similar problem in with amber!
Note however that the gromacs definition decreased the volume as
compared to gromos.


This is makes a hugde difference in the number of water atoms to add.
Does anyone has an explanation for this paradox?


kind regards,

servaas


-
XAvier Periole - PhD

NMR & Molecular Dynamics Group
University of Groningen
The Netherlands
http://md.chem.rug.nl/~periole
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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs versus amber boxsize -correction-

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Abraham

servaas michielssens wrote:

I made a mistake in the numbers, but the question remains:
 
I ran the following command in gromacs:

editconf -bt dodecahedron -f p61_vac_gro.gro -o p61_vac_dod.gro -d 0.8
 
The equivalent command in amber:

solvateoct p61_vac.pdb TIP3PBOX 8.0
 
As far as I understand this, both command created a box were the edges 
are 0.8 nm away from the solute. But the resulting image distance (d in 
the manual) in gromacs is:

121.3092
and in amber:
110.5103716


What shapes were these commands creating? How are you measuring this 
image distance?


Mark
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[gmx-users] gromacs versus amber boxsize

2008-01-29 Thread servaas michielssens
I ran the following command in gromacs:
editconf -bt dodecahedron -f p61_vac_gro.gro -o p61_vac_dod.gro -d 0.8

The equivalent command in amber:
solvateoct p61_vac.pdb TIP3PBOX 8.0

As far as I understand this, both command created a box were the edges are 0.8 
nm away from the solute. But the resulting image distance (d in the manual) in 
gromacs is:
121.3092
and in amber:
85.9385483

This is makes a hugde difference in the number of water atoms to add.
Does anyone has an explanation for this paradox?


kind regards,

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[gmx-users] gromacs versus amber boxsize -correction-

2008-01-29 Thread servaas michielssens
I made a mistake in the numbers, but the question remains:

I ran the following command in gromacs:
editconf -bt dodecahedron -f p61_vac_gro.gro -o p61_vac_dod.gro -d 0.8

The equivalent command in amber:
solvateoct p61_vac.pdb TIP3PBOX 8.0

As far as I understand this, both command created a box were the edges are 0.8 
nm away from the solute. But the resulting image distance (d in the manual) in 
gromacs is:
121.3092
and in amber:
110.5103716

This is makes a hugde difference in the number of water atoms to add.
Does anyone has an explanation for this paradox?


kind regards,

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