[gmx-users] non squares box

2009-06-21 Thread Omer Markovitch
Dear All,
I would like to ask your help on the following - I want my simulation to
include a surface, and have PBC.
The surface I chose is aligned on the XY plane. However, the surface is not
a square.
The surface dimensions are a=b=169.2  c=6.9 Angstroms, the angles are:
bc=ac=90  ab=120 degrees.

I have used editconf -f -box 16.92 16.92 0.69 -angles 90.0 90.0 120.0. To
test this, I have used trjconv -pbc nojump -center yes -boxcenter zero. My
problem is that the trjconv generates a structure where some of the surface
atoms are cut and/or overlapping...

Could you please help me? Wheres the problem?
The input PDB I use is about 2 MB in size, so it can't be attached here.

Koby Levy research group,
Weizmann Institute of Science.
http://www.weizmann.ac.il/sb/faculty_pages/Levy/
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Re: [gmx-users] non squares box

2009-06-21 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Omer,

To check your periodicity use genconf:

genconf -f in.pdb -o out.pdb -nbox 2 2 2

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Omer Markovitchomer...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,
 I would like to ask your help on the following - I want my simulation to
 include a surface, and have PBC.
 The surface I chose is aligned on the XY plane. However, the surface is not
 a square.
 The surface dimensions are a=b=169.2  c=6.9 Angstroms, the angles are:
 bc=ac=90  ab=120 degrees.

 I have used editconf -f -box 16.92 16.92 0.69 -angles 90.0 90.0 120.0. To
 test this, I have used trjconv -pbc nojump -center yes -boxcenter zero. My
 problem is that the trjconv generates a structure where some of the surface
 atoms are cut and/or overlapping...

 Could you please help me? Wheres the problem?
 The input PDB I use is about 2 MB in size, so it can't be attached here.

 Koby Levy research group,
 Weizmann Institute of Science.
 http://www.weizmann.ac.il/sb/faculty_pages/Levy/


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Re: [gmx-users] non squares box

2009-06-21 Thread Mark Abraham

Omer Markovitch wrote:

Thanks.
I am not sure how this addresses my problem. I am getting broken 
structure at the end of the MD (in confout.gro), 


Well, you didn't say you were doing MD. I (and presumably Tsjerk) 
thought you were converting your output from editconf. In such a case, 
Tserk's suggestion lets you tile some boxes together to see how things 
are (not) working. Your results will also depend on the contents of your 
editconf -f file.gro. I suggest you copy and paste your actual commands 
in future :-)


Mark

and want to be sure 
that GMX treat it correctly during the MD.


To check your periodicity use genconf:

genconf -f in.pdb -o out.pdb -nbox 2 2 2





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Re: [gmx-users] non squares box

2009-06-21 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Right, there was no reference whatsoever to MD. The first sentence,
preluding the problem, mentioned editconf. The second, mentioned
trjconv. No grompp/mdrun etc in between. Anyway, also to check the
periodicity in your output (note how flexibly I adapt it to the
current situation):

genconf -f confout.gro -o out.pdb -nbox 2 2 2

:p

Tsjerk

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Mark Abrahammark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:
 Omer Markovitch wrote:

 Thanks.
 I am not sure how this addresses my problem. I am getting broken
 structure at the end of the MD (in confout.gro),

 Well, you didn't say you were doing MD. I (and presumably Tsjerk) thought
 you were converting your output from editconf. In such a case, Tserk's
 suggestion lets you tile some boxes together to see how things are (not)
 working. Your results will also depend on the contents of your editconf -f
 file.gro. I suggest you copy and paste your actual commands in future :-)

 Mark

 and want to be sure that GMX treat it correctly during the MD.

    To check your periodicity use genconf:

    genconf -f in.pdb -o out.pdb -nbox 2 2 2



 

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Re: [gmx-users] non squares box

2009-06-21 Thread Omer Markovitch
I prefer to keep discussions professional, Mark and Tsjerk.

Anyway, I am doing MD with PBC. I have a surface which sits on the XY axes,
the surface is not a square and my question is how do I tell gromacs that I
have a non standard box. Please see my original post for more details:

++
I would like to ask your help on the following - I want my simulation to
include a surface, and have PBC.
The surface I chose is aligned on the XY plane. However, the surface is not
a square.
The surface dimensions are a=b=169.2  c=6.9 Angstroms, the angles are:
bc=ac=90  ab=120 degrees.

I have used editconf -f -box 16.92 16.92 0.69 -angles 90.0 90.0 120.0. To
test this, I have used trjconv -pbc nojump -center yes -boxcenter zero. My
problem is that the trjconv generates a structure where some of the surface
atoms are cut and/or overlapping...
++

Thank you. Omer.

Koby Levy research group,
Weizmann Institute of Science.
http://www.weizmann.ac.il/sb/faculty_pages/Levy/
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Re: [gmx-users] non squares box

2009-06-21 Thread David van der Spoel

Omer Markovitch wrote:

I prefer to keep discussions professional, Mark and Tsjerk.

Anyway, I am doing MD with PBC. I have a surface which sits on the XY 
axes, the surface is not a square and my question is how do I tell 
gromacs that I have a non standard box. Please see my original post for 
more details:


Dear Omer,

I agree with Tsjerk that genconf is a useful tool to visualize the 
periodicity using PyMol, as was suggested. If you dismiss this kind of 
advice and repeat the original question, people get upset.


What you are saying is that you generated a box using editconf, but 
editconf does not put the atoms in the box. Hence putting a box that 
does not correspond to the coordinates will give rise to atomic clashes.


I'm not quite sure what you think should be the expected result of your 
trjconv operation.





++
I would like to ask your help on the following - I want my simulation to 
include a surface, and have PBC.
The surface I chose is aligned on the XY plane. However, the surface is 
not a square.
The surface dimensions are a=b=169.2  c=6.9 Angstroms, the angles are: 
bc=ac=90  ab=120 degrees.


I have used editconf -f -box 16.92 16.92 0.69 -angles 90.0 90.0 120.0. 
To test this, I have used trjconv -pbc nojump -center yes -boxcenter 
zero. My problem is that the trjconv generates a structure where some 
of the surface atoms are cut and/or overlapping...

++

Thank you. Omer.
 
Koby Levy research group,

Weizmann Institute of Science.
http://www.weizmann.ac.il/sb/faculty_pages/Levy/




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