[gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread Dr Itamar Kass
Shalom all,

To my best understanding, there is a correction to the single precision
integration problem (A common, avoidable source of error in molecular
dynamics integrators
J. Chem. Phys. 126, 046101 (2007).) at the CVS.

I want to know were can I get it and how to install it. First, the
GROMACS site is down now. Second from the bit I have read, it is not
clear to me how to install the stable CVS and not an experimentally version.

Best,
Itamar

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Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread Yang Ye



On 4/11/2007 5:52 PM, Dr Itamar Kass wrote:

Shalom all,

To my best understanding, there is a correction to the single precision
integration problem (A common, avoidable source of error in molecular
dynamics integrators
J. Chem. Phys. 126, 046101 (2007).) at the CVS.

I want to know were can I get it and how to install it. First, the
GROMACS site is down now. Second from the bit I have read, it is not
clear to me how to install the stable CVS and not an experimentally version.

  

Stable version:
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co -r 
release-3-3-patches gmx


HEAD Branch
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co gmx


Best,
Itamar

---

Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future - Niels Bohr

===
| Itamar Kass, Ph.D.
| Postdoctoral Research Fellow
|
|Molecular Dynamics Group
| School of Molecular and Microbial Sciences (SMMS)
| Chemistry Building (#68)
| The University of Queensland
| St. Lucia Campus, Brisbane, QLD 4067
| Australia
|
| Tel: +61 7 3365 9922
| Fax: +61 7 3365 3872
| E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Web page: http://www.uq.edu.au/~uqikass/
| Personal web page: http://thekassfamily.blogspot.com/


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Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread David van der Spoel

Yang Ye wrote:



On 4/11/2007 5:52 PM, Dr Itamar Kass wrote:

Shalom all,

To my best understanding, there is a correction to the single precision
integration problem (A common, avoidable source of error in molecular
dynamics integrators
J. Chem. Phys. 126, 046101 (2007).) at the CVS.

I want to know were can I get it and how to install it. First, the
GROMACS site is down now. Second from the bit I have read, it is not
clear to me how to install the stable CVS and not an experimentally 
version.


  

Stable version:
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co -r 
release-3-3-patches gmx


HEAD Branch
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co gmx


Best,
Itamar


The stable version does not have the fix (because it will change results).

--
David.

David van der Spoel, PhD, Assoc. Prof., Molecular Biophysics group,
Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.
Husargatan 3, Box 596,  75124 Uppsala, Sweden
phone:  46 18 471 4205  fax: 46 18 511 755
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://folding.bmc.uu.se

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Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread Berk Hess





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Yang Ye wrote:



On 4/11/2007 5:52 PM, Dr Itamar Kass wrote:

Shalom all,

To my best understanding, there is a correction to the single precision
integration problem (A common, avoidable source of error in molecular
dynamics integrators
J. Chem. Phys. 126, 046101 (2007).) at the CVS.

I want to know were can I get it and how to install it. First, the
GROMACS site is down now. Second from the bit I have read, it is not
clear to me how to install the stable CVS and not an experimentally 
version.




Stable version:
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co -r 
release-3-3-patches gmx


HEAD Branch
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co gmx


Best,
Itamar


The stable version does not have the fix (because it will change results).

--
David.


I would like to add that for a constant temperature ensemble the effect
of this fix is neglegible.
It is only useful for constant NVE simulations.

Berk.

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Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread Michael Shirts

Hi, all-


I would like to add that for a constant temperature ensemble the effect
of this fix is neglegible.
It is only useful for constant NVE simulations.

Berk.


I think this might need some qualifications. If the constant
temperature dynamics are based inherently on NVE dynamics, they must
be affected similarly.  For example, for Nose-Hoover thermostats,
there exists a conserved quantity.  I would expect that this fix would
also improve that conserved quantity, wouldn't it?

One feature that would be useful is that for any algorithm that has a
conserved energy-like quantity, there should be an entry in the .edr
file with that quantity.  It would be a useful check for algorithmic
consistency.  I don't think this is yet in GROMACS, though I could be
wrong -- I haven't examined the CVS that recently.

Best,
Michael Shirts
Research Fellow
Department of Chemistry
Columbia University
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Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread David van der Spoel

Michael Shirts wrote:

Hi, all-


I would like to add that for a constant temperature ensemble the effect
of this fix is neglegible.
It is only useful for constant NVE simulations.

Berk.


I think this might need some qualifications. If the constant
temperature dynamics are based inherently on NVE dynamics, they must
be affected similarly.  For example, for Nose-Hoover thermostats,
there exists a conserved quantity.  I would expect that this fix would
also improve that conserved quantity, wouldn't it?

One feature that would be useful is that for any algorithm that has a
conserved energy-like quantity, there should be an entry in the .edr
file with that quantity.  It would be a useful check for algorithmic
consistency.  I don't think this is yet in GROMACS, though I could be
wrong -- I haven't examined the CVS that recently.


How about total energy? In tends to be constant in NVE simulations. I 
don't know what the conserved property would be in an NVT simulation.


--
David.

David van der Spoel, PhD, Assoc. Prof., Molecular Biophysics group,
Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.
Husargatan 3, Box 596,  75124 Uppsala, Sweden
phone:  46 18 471 4205  fax: 46 18 511 755
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://folding.bmc.uu.se

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