[gmx-users] protein Aggregation using Gromacs

2010-05-12 Thread shahid nayeem
Dear all
What are the analysis tools which should be used on MD trajectory file in
order to find potential aggregation sites of a protein. Anyone can tell me
about specific resource material on use of Gromacs to predict protein
aggregation hot spots from MD trajectory anlysis.
Shahid Nayeem
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Re: [gmx-users] protein Aggregation using Gromacs

2010-05-12 Thread Ran Friedman
Hi,

There's no recipie to locate aggregation hot spots based on MD
simulations. There are many papers on simulations of protein and peptide
aggregation from which you can draw some ideas, but bear in mind that
aggregation of more than very few and very small peptides is typically
much slower than what one can simulate using atomistic MD.

For a quick approach you can use sequence analysis tools, e.g., TANGO
http://tango.crg.es/

Good luck,
Ran

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shahid nayeem wrote:
 Dear all
 What are the analysis tools which should be used on MD trajectory file
 in order to find potential aggregation sites of a protein. Anyone can
 tell me about specific resource material on use of Gromacs to predict
 protein aggregation hot spots from MD trajectory anlysis.
 Shahid Nayeem

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Re: [gmx-users] protein Aggregation using Gromacs

2010-05-12 Thread shahid nayeem
Hi
 I have used TANGO Aggrescan, Zyggregator and other online tools but I am
unable to find and pinpoint residue responsible for aggregation. Then I did
MD simulation of the proteins with gromacs at different temperature. Now in
this background I need  suggestion to analyse my MD trajectory.
shahid Nayeem


On 5/12/10, Ran Friedman r.fried...@bioc.uzh.ch wrote:

 Hi,

 There's no recipie to locate aggregation hot spots based on MD
 simulations. There are many papers on simulations of protein and peptide
 aggregation from which you can draw some ideas, but bear in mind that
 aggregation of more than very few and very small peptides is typically
 much slower than what one can simulate using atomistic MD.

 For a quick approach you can use sequence analysis tools, e.g., TANGO
 http://tango.crg.es/

 Good luck,
 Ran

 --
 --
 Ran Friedman
 Postdoctoral Fellow
 Computational Structural Biology Group (A. Caflisch)
 Department of Biochemistry
 University of Zurich
 Winterthurerstrasse 190
 CH-8057 Zurich, Switzerland
 Tel. +41-44-639
 Email: r.fried...@bioc.uzh.ch
 Skype: ran.friedman
 --

 shahid nayeem wrote:
  Dear all
  What are the analysis tools which should be used on MD trajectory file
  in order to find potential aggregation sites of a protein. Anyone can
  tell me about specific resource material on use of Gromacs to predict
  protein aggregation hot spots from MD trajectory anlysis.
  Shahid Nayeem

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Re: [gmx-users] protein Aggregation using Gromacs

2010-05-12 Thread Ran Friedman
Hello again -

IMHO the best approach for any simulation study is to plan how the
simulation will be used to solve a specific scientific problem before
running the simulations, rather then the other way around. To clarify
what I wrote below, there's no algorithm I'm aware of where the input is
an MD simulation of a certain protein and the output is an aggregation
propensity of certain residues.

Having said that, simulations can be a useful tool to study amyloid
aggregation and even tendency of specific residues to aggregate first. A
useful approach was developed in the group where I work now, based on
the aggregation propensity of peptide sequences decomposed from the
whole protein:
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jmb.2006.01.009

Using your simulations, you can check if some residues are more prone to
lose their secondary structure as the temperature increases, which 
suggests that they are more likely to unfold. Do bear in mind though
that aggregation is a complex process which involves multimers. Unless
you show some correlation with experimental findings it will be
difficult to defend your conclusions.

Ran

shahid nayeem wrote:
 Hi
  I have used TANGO Aggrescan, Zyggregator and other online tools but I
 am unable to find and pinpoint residue responsible for aggregation.
 Then I did MD simulation of the proteins with gromacs at different
 temperature. Now in this background I need  suggestion to analyse my
 MD trajectory.
 shahid Nayeem

  
 On 5/12/10, *Ran Friedman* r.fried...@bioc.uzh.ch
 mailto:r.fried...@bioc.uzh.ch wrote:

 Hi,

 There's no recipie to locate aggregation hot spots based on MD
 simulations. There are many papers on simulations of protein and
 peptide
 aggregation from which you can draw some ideas, but bear in mind that
 aggregation of more than very few and very small peptides is typically
 much slower than what one can simulate using atomistic MD.

 For a quick approach you can use sequence analysis tools, e.g., TANGO
 http://tango.crg.es/

 Good luck,
 Ran

 --
 --
 Ran Friedman
 Postdoctoral Fellow
 Computational Structural Biology Group (A. Caflisch)
 Department of Biochemistry
 University of Zurich
 Winterthurerstrasse 190
 CH-8057 Zurich, Switzerland
 Tel. +41-44-639
 Email: r.fried...@bioc.uzh.ch mailto:r.fried...@bioc.uzh.ch
 Skype: ran.friedman
 --

 shahid nayeem wrote:
  Dear all
  What are the analysis tools which should be used on MD
 trajectory file
  in order to find potential aggregation sites of a protein.
 Anyone can
  tell me about specific resource material on use of Gromacs to
 predict
  protein aggregation hot spots from MD trajectory anlysis.
  Shahid Nayeem


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