[gmx-users] question about g_rmsdist II

2007-05-17 Thread Fabrizio Mancinelli
Sorry, since I hadn't any answer to my question yet, I'm resending it to
give it visibility!

Thanks,
Fabrizio

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Oggetto: question about g_rmsdist
Data: Mon, 14 May 2007 18:52:54 +0200
Dear all,

I would like to have some elucidation about g_rmsdist output.
Optionally, it outputs three matrices with the options -rms, -mean and -
scl. Questions are:

1) Exploring .xpm files, I see there is a letter code which converts
color exa-codes to letters to values. The resolution is tunable with
option -nlevels, but the range is delimited by the highest calculated
value. Is there a way to assign a fixed range (in order, e.g., to
compare different trajectories of the same protein)?

2) -rms output, I guess, is the deviation from average distance, over
time, for each atom couple. I see my matrix is full of 0's. I expected
0's on the principal diagonal (distance of an atom from itself is
obviously always zero), but others? It should mean atoms' distances RMSD
are 0, that is they do not deviate... but they don't look that fixed at
all from the trajectory! This is even more surprisingly in the -mean
output, which should contain, I guess, atom distances averaged over
time. In that case there are lots of 0's too. Maybe my I guess are
wrong...

3) What is, actually, -scl output?

Thanks in advance to anybody who will answer.

Fabrizio

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Re: [gmx-users] question about g_rmsdist II

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Abraham

Fabrizio Mancinelli wrote:

Sorry, since I hadn't any answer to my question yet, I'm resending it to
give it visibility!


If you don't get any luck, remember that the source code is available 
for a reason :-)



--- Messaggio inoltrato ---
Da: Fabrizio Mancinelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Oggetto: question about g_rmsdist
Data: Mon, 14 May 2007 18:52:54 +0200
Dear all,

I would like to have some elucidation about g_rmsdist output.
Optionally, it outputs three matrices with the options -rms, -mean and -
scl. Questions are:

1) Exploring .xpm files, I see there is a letter code which converts
color exa-codes to letters to values. The resolution is tunable with
option -nlevels, but the range is delimited by the highest calculated
value. Is there a way to assign a fixed range (in order, e.g., to
compare different trajectories of the same protein)?


There was discussion on the list of implementing a way to write a binary 
or ascii matrix. This would make it easy to do the kind of comparison I 
think you want to do. Check the archives for the resolution, but if 
there was one suitable for your needs, you'd need to use the CVS version 
of this utility.



2) -rms output, I guess, is the deviation from average distance, over
time, for each atom couple. I see my matrix is full of 0's. I expected
0's on the principal diagonal (distance of an atom from itself is
obviously always zero), but others? It should mean atoms' distances RMSD
are 0, that is they do not deviate... but they don't look that fixed at
all from the trajectory! This is even more surprisingly in the -mean
output, which should contain, I guess, atom distances averaged over
time. In that case there are lots of 0's too. Maybe my I guess are
wrong...


You've certainly got the wrong handle on -mean. Check the man page.


3) What is, actually, -scl output?


Don't know.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] question about g_rmsdist II

2007-05-17 Thread Erik Marklund


17 maj 2007 kl. 15.49 skrev Mark Abraham:


Fabrizio Mancinelli wrote:
Sorry, since I hadn't any answer to my question yet, I'm resending  
it to

give it visibility!


If you don't get any luck, remember that the source code is  
available for a reason :-)



--- Messaggio inoltrato ---
Da: Fabrizio Mancinelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Oggetto: question about g_rmsdist
Data: Mon, 14 May 2007 18:52:54 +0200
Dear all,
I would like to have some elucidation about g_rmsdist output.
Optionally, it outputs three matrices with the options -rms, -mean  
and -

scl. Questions are:
1) Exploring .xpm files, I see there is a letter code which converts
color exa-codes to letters to values. The resolution is tunable  
with

option -nlevels, but the range is delimited by the highest calculated
value. Is there a way to assign a fixed range (in order, e.g., to
compare different trajectories of the same protein)?


There was discussion on the list of implementing a way to write a  
binary or ascii matrix. This would make it easy to do the kind of  
comparison I think you want to do. Check the archives for the  
resolution, but if there was one suitable for your needs, you'd  
need to use the CVS version of this utility.



2) -rms output, I guess, is the deviation from average distance, over
time, for each atom couple. I see my matrix is full of 0's. I  
expected

0's on the principal diagonal (distance of an atom from itself is
obviously always zero), but others? It should mean atoms'  
distances RMSD
are 0, that is they do not deviate... but they don't look that  
fixed at

all from the trajectory! This is even more surprisingly in the -mean
output, which should contain, I guess, atom distances averaged over
time. In that case there are lots of 0's too. Maybe my I guess are
wrong...


You've certainly got the wrong handle on -mean. Check the man page.


3) What is, actually, -scl output?


I don't use g_rmsdist much, but the -h option tells me that  
g_rmsdist can also produce matrices of the rms distances, rms distances
scaled with the mean distance and the mean distances and matrices  
with NMR

averaged distances (1/r^3 and 1/r^6 averaging)., which is a good clue.

/Erik


Don't know.

Mark
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