Re: [gmx-users] question on KALP-15 in DPPC tutorial

2010-11-21 Thread Amit Choubey
Thank you Mark and Justin. Yes i did check the reference of your tutorial,
but its just that there are so many groups using same FF but different
cut-off lengths.

amit

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

> Quoting Mark Abraham :
>
> > On 21/11/2010 8:45 PM, Amit Choubey wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I was going through the very nicely presented tutorial by Justin (on
> > > KALP-15 in DPPC). I have one question regarding the non-bonded
> > > cut-offs. It seems that people use many different values of non-bonded
> > > cut-off (varying from 0.9 nm to 1.2 nm or probably more). How should i
> > > choose the cut-off values for my simulations ?
> >
> > In the first instance, by reproducing the conditions under which the
> > parameters were validated. Unfortunately, most of the force fields were
> > not parametrized for PME, under which they are often now used. So look
> > at some papers from large well-known groups that have done something
> > similar to what you want to do, judge how well they have worked, and do
> > something comparable. Unfortunately, there have been little or no
> > systematic studies of how accurate forcefield X plus PME needs to be to
> > model reality usefully. Hopefully that will change :-)
> >
>
> And directly related to the tutorial in question, the settings used therein
> were
> assigned to reproduce the study that I cite in the introductory material.
>
> -Justin
>
> 
>
> Justin A. Lemkul
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> MILES-IGERT Trainee
> Department of Biochemistry
> Virginia Tech
> Blacksburg, VA
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Re: [gmx-users] question on KALP-15 in DPPC tutorial

2010-11-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Quoting Mark Abraham :

> On 21/11/2010 8:45 PM, Amit Choubey wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was going through the very nicely presented tutorial by Justin (on
> > KALP-15 in DPPC). I have one question regarding the non-bonded
> > cut-offs. It seems that people use many different values of non-bonded
> > cut-off (varying from 0.9 nm to 1.2 nm or probably more). How should i
> > choose the cut-off values for my simulations ?
>
> In the first instance, by reproducing the conditions under which the
> parameters were validated. Unfortunately, most of the force fields were
> not parametrized for PME, under which they are often now used. So look
> at some papers from large well-known groups that have done something
> similar to what you want to do, judge how well they have worked, and do
> something comparable. Unfortunately, there have been little or no
> systematic studies of how accurate forcefield X plus PME needs to be to
> model reality usefully. Hopefully that will change :-)
>

And directly related to the tutorial in question, the settings used therein were
assigned to reproduce the study that I cite in the introductory material.

-Justin



Justin A. Lemkul
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ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
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Re: [gmx-users] question on KALP-15 in DPPC tutorial

2010-11-21 Thread Mark Abraham

On 21/11/2010 8:45 PM, Amit Choubey wrote:

Hi all,

I was going through the very nicely presented tutorial by Justin (on 
KALP-15 in DPPC). I have one question regarding the non-bonded 
cut-offs. It seems that people use many different values of non-bonded 
cut-off (varying from 0.9 nm to 1.2 nm or probably more). How should i 
choose the cut-off values for my simulations ?


In the first instance, by reproducing the conditions under which the 
parameters were validated. Unfortunately, most of the force fields were 
not parametrized for PME, under which they are often now used. So look 
at some papers from large well-known groups that have done something 
similar to what you want to do, judge how well they have worked, and do 
something comparable. Unfortunately, there have been little or no 
systematic studies of how accurate forcefield X plus PME needs to be to 
model reality usefully. Hopefully that will change :-)


Mark
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[gmx-users] question on KALP-15 in DPPC tutorial

2010-11-21 Thread Amit Choubey
Hi all,

I was going through the very nicely presented tutorial by Justin (on KALP-15
in DPPC). I have one question regarding the non-bonded cut-offs. It seems
that people use many different values of non-bonded cut-off (varying from
0.9 nm to 1.2 nm or probably more). How should i choose the cut-off values
for my simulations ?

amit
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