[gmx-users] reference structure of g_rms

2011-08-17 Thread Hsin-Lin Chiang
Hi Tsjerk,

It's very helpful information.
Thank you very much

Sincerely yours,
Hsin-Lin
Hi 
Hsin-Lin,

If you use a .tpr file, you perform a mass-weighted fit and 
analysis.
A .gro file has no masses and thus the fit and analysis are 
performed
non-mass weighted, which will give differences, depending on 
the
selection for the 
analysis.

Hope it 
helps,

Tsjerk

2011/8/17 Hsin-Lin Chiang :
>> > 
Hi,
>> 
>
>> > I got confused about the choice of reference structure of 
g_rms. 
(g_rms
>> > 
-s)
>> > For 
example,
>> > I run MD after 
PR.
>> > That's means md.tpr was generated from 
pr.gro
>> > I tried to use pr.gro and md.tpr to be the reference 
structure but 
get
>> > different 
result.
>> > I think these two should cause the same 
result.
>>
>> I think they should give the same result. If not, then the 
mostly 
likely
>> explanation is that you've not used the files the way you think 
you 
have.
>> You need to be able to 
issue
>>
>> grompp -f md -c pr -o 
md
>> g_rms -s md.tpr -f 
whatever
>> g_rms -s pr.gro -f 
whatever
>>
>> and get different results for there to be some kind of problem. 
In 
any
>> case, you need to provide copies of your command lines and the 
different
>> result in order for us to see whether you or GROMACS has done 
something
>> wrong/unexpected/whatever. Otherwise it's hearsay and we'll 
shrug and 
do
>> something else with our time 
:-)
>>
>> 
Mark
> 
Hi,
>
> I checked the result 
again
> The order of the different is less than 0.1 
nm.
> So that means this different is caused by 
precision?
>
> Sincerely 
yours,
> 
Hsin-Lin
>

 
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Re: [gmx-users] reference structure of g_rms

2011-08-17 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Hsin-Lin,

If you use a .tpr file, you perform a mass-weighted fit and analysis.
A .gro file has no masses and thus the fit and analysis are performed
non-mass weighted, which will give differences, depending on the
selection for the analysis.

Hope it helps,

Tsjerk

2011/8/17 Hsin-Lin Chiang :
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I got confused about the choice of reference structure of g_rms. (g_rms
>> > -s)
>> > For example,
>> > I run MD after PR.
>> > That's means md.tpr was generated from pr.gro
>> > I tried to use pr.gro and md.tpr to be the reference structure but get
>> > different result.
>> > I think these two should cause the same result.
>>
>> I think they should give the same result. If not, then the mostly likely
>> explanation is that you've not used the files the way you think you have.
>> You need to be able to issue
>>
>> grompp -f md -c pr -o md
>> g_rms -s md.tpr -f whatever
>> g_rms -s pr.gro -f whatever
>>
>> and get different results for there to be some kind of problem. In any
>> case, you need to provide copies of your command lines and the different
>> result in order for us to see whether you or GROMACS has done something
>> wrong/unexpected/whatever. Otherwise it's hearsay and we'll shrug and do
>> something else with our time :-)
>>
>> Mark
> Hi,
>
> I checked the result again
> The order of the different is less than 0.1 nm.
> So that means this different is caused by precision?
>
> Sincerely yours,
> Hsin-Lin
>
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[gmx-users] reference structure of g_rms

2011-08-17 Thread Hsin-Lin Chiang
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > I got confused about the choice of reference structure of g_rms. (g_rms -s) 
> > For example, 
> > I run MD after PR. 
> > That's means md.tpr was generated from pr.gro 
> > I tried to use pr.gro and md.tpr to be the reference structure but get 
> > different result. 
> > I think these two should cause the same result. 
> 
> I think they should give the same result. If not, then the mostly likely 
> explanation is that you've not used the files the way you think you have. You 
> need to be able to issue 
> 
> grompp -f md -c pr -o md 
> g_rms -s md.tpr -f whatever 
> g_rms -s pr.gro -f whatever 
> 
> and get different results for there to be some kind of problem. In any case, 
> you need to provide copies of your command lines and the different result in 
> order for us to see whether you or GROMACS has done something 
> wrong/unexpected/whatever. Otherwise it's hearsay and we'll shrug and do 
> something else with our time :-) 
> 
> Mark 
Hi,

I checked the result again
The order of the different is less than 0.1 nm.
So that means this different is caused by precision?

Sincerely yours,
Hsin-Lin
 
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[gmx-users] reference structure of g_rms

2011-08-17 Thread Hsin-Lin Chiang
> On 17/08/11, Hsin-Lin Chiang  wrote: 
> 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > I got confused about the choice of reference structure of g_rms. (g_rms -s) 
> > For example, 
> > I run MD after PR. 
> > That's means md.tpr was generated from pr.gro 
> > I tried to use pr.gro and md.tpr to be the reference structure but get 
> > different result. 
> > I think these two should cause the same result. 
> 
> I think they should give the same result. If not, then the mostly likely 
> explanation is that you've not used the files the way you think you have. You 
> need to be able to issue 
> 
> grompp -f md -c pr -o md 
> g_rms -s md.tpr -f whatever 
> g_rms -s pr.gro -f whatever 
> 
> and get different results for there to be some kind of problem. In any case, 
> you need to provide copies of your command lines and the different result in 
> order for us to see whether you or GROMACS has done something 
> wrong/unexpected/whatever. Otherwise it's hearsay and we'll shrug and do 
> something else with our time :-) 
> 
> Mark 
> 
Hi Mark,

Thank you for your reply.
I used,
grompp -f md.mdp -c pr.gro -t pr.trr -o md.tpr  
mdrun -deffnm

then, 
g_rms -f md.trr -s md.tpr -o rmsd1.xvg
g_rms -f md.trr -s pr.gro  -o rmsd2.xvg

The output rmsd1.xvg and rmsd2.xvg are different in value.

Hsin-Lin
> > 
> > 
> > Could someone tell me  what cause the different and which choice is 
> > better? 
> > 
> > And my version is gromacs v4.0.5 
> > 
> > Sincerely yours, 
> > Hsin-Lin

 
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Re: [gmx-users] reference structure of g_rms

2011-08-17 Thread Mark Abraham
 
 
On 17/08/11, Hsin-Lin Chiang  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I got confused about the choice of reference structure of g_rms. (g_rms -s)
> For example,
> I run MD after PR.
> That's means md.tpr was generated from pr.gro
> I tried to use pr.gro and md.tpr to be the reference structure but get 
> different result.
> I think these two should cause the same result.

 
I think they should give the same result. If not, then the mostly likely 
explanation is that you've not used the files the way you think you have. You 
need to be able to issue
 
grompp -f md -c pr -o md 
g_rms -s md.tpr -f whatever 
g_rms -s pr.gro -f whatever
 
and get different results for there to be some kind of problem. In any case, 
you need to provide copies of your command lines and the different result in 
order for us to see whether you or GROMACS has done something 
wrong/unexpected/whatever. Otherwise it's hearsay and we'll shrug and do 
something else with our time :-)
 
Mark 
 

> 
> 
> Could someone tell me  what cause the different and which choice is better?
> 
> And my version is gromacs v4.0.5
> 
> Sincerely yours,
> Hsin-Lin
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[gmx-users] reference structure of g_rms

2011-08-17 Thread Hsin-Lin Chiang

Hi,

I got confused about the choice of reference structure of g_rms. (g_rms -s)
For example,
I run MD after PR.
That's means md.tpr was generated from pr.gro
I tried to use pr.gro and md.tpr to be the reference structure but get 
different result.

I think these two should cause the same result.
Could someone tell me  what cause the different and which choice is better?

And my version is gromacs v4.0.5

Sincerely yours,
Hsin-Lin
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