Re: [gmx-users] set up topology in free energy calculations

2008-04-07 Thread Maik Goette

QL,

1. Yes. I'd use version a) because of, the less dummies, the better.
2. Yes
3. Of course, charges have to vanish for dummies, too. Keep the bonded 
terms. If not, your dummies will "diffuse" away.


Yes, your assumption about dummies is right.

Actually, I won't use this system for your first perturbation. Take 
something simpler.
Second, as indicated by point 3, you will have to tackle a disappearing 
netto charge of -1 (depending on the pH of course). This usually is a 
problem.

There were discussions of PME being problematic here.
Morphing an ion to counter that charge difference is possible. However, 
I think this would lead to a very bad equilibrated system and no 
reasonable results.


Regards

Maik Goette, Dipl. Biol.
Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
Theoretical & computational biophysics department
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friendli wrote:

Dear Gmx users,

I am calculating the mutation free energy from amino acid Asp to Asn as 
a test job for my practice.

I have some questions about setting up the topology file.

1, from Asp to Asn mutation, the -CH2-COOH changes to -CH2-CO-NH2 or 
simply -OH to -NH2.

In topology, O <-> N.
What about the hydrogens, do I need one or two dummy(DUM) atoms?

a), DUM <-> H ; H(of OH) <-> H(of NH2)
b), DUM <-> H(of NH2); DUM <-> H(of NH2); H(of OH) to DUM
a) or b) should I use?

2, I need to provide the coordinates for the dummy atoms in the .gro 
file(Asp), right? since otherwise the # of atoms in .top and .gro will 
mismatch.


3, from the tutorial(methane) I read, the masses of the dummy atom keeps 
like real atom and the C6 and C12 changes to zero in [atomtypes] to 
vanish the nonbonded interactions.  How to deal with the bonds and the 
charges for dummy atoms? bonded interactions?


I think I am a bit confused by the definition of the dummy atom.  I 
understanding is a dummy atom is a atoms with same mass but no 
interaction with all other atoms. Is that right?



thanks for help and suggestions are appreciate.

QL
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[gmx-users] set up topology in free energy calculations

2008-04-02 Thread friendli

Dear Gmx users,

I am calculating the mutation free energy from amino acid Asp to Asn as 
a test job for my practice.

I have some questions about setting up the topology file.

1, from Asp to Asn mutation, the -CH2-COOH changes to -CH2-CO-NH2 or 
simply -OH to -NH2.

In topology, O <-> N.
What about the hydrogens, do I need one or two dummy(DUM) atoms?

a), DUM <-> H ; H(of OH) <-> H(of NH2)
b), DUM <-> H(of NH2); DUM <-> H(of NH2); H(of OH) to DUM
a) or b) should I use?

2, I need to provide the coordinates for the dummy atoms in the .gro 
file(Asp), right? since otherwise the # of atoms in .top and .gro will 
mismatch.


3, from the tutorial(methane) I read, the masses of the dummy atom keeps 
like real atom and the C6 and C12 changes to zero in [atomtypes] to 
vanish the nonbonded interactions.  How to deal with the bonds and the 
charges for dummy atoms? bonded interactions?


I think I am a bit confused by the definition of the dummy atom.  I 
understanding is a dummy atom is a atoms with same mass but no 
interaction with all other atoms. Is that right?



thanks for help and suggestions are appreciate.

QL
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