Re: [gmx-users] wierd behavior of mdrun

2009-08-28 Thread Mark Abraham

Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:

One more point:
when I run the job interactively, although it works but date and time
are wrong!

step 0
step 100, will finish Wed Sep 16 16:16:00 2009
step 200, will finish Wed Sep 16 14:32:34 2009
step 300, will finish Wed Sep 16 13:57:51 2009
step 400, will finish Wed Sep 16 11:35:46 2009
step 500, will finish Wed Sep 16 11:50:12 2009
step 600, will finish Wed Sep 16 10:36:38 2009
step 700, will finish Wed Sep 16 09:44:04 2009
step 800, will finish Wed Sep 16 10:07:02 2009
step 900, will finish Wed Sep 16 09:29:25 2009
step 1000, will finish Wed Sep 16 08:59:19 2009
step 1100, will finish Wed Sep 16 09:20:06 2009
step 1200, will finish Wed Sep 16 08:55:47 2009
step 1300, will finish Wed Sep 16 09:13:38 2009
step 1400, will finish Wed Sep 16 08:53:15 2009

Is it a cluster related or GROMACS related issue? Is it important at
all?


That's just an estimate based on the elapsed wall time. If the source of 
elapsed wall time is unreliable or wrong, or the sample of wall time is 
too short, then the estimate will be wrong or vary widely accordingly.


This prediction should stabilize over the course of the run.

Mark
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RE: [gmx-users] wierd behavior of mdrun

2009-08-28 Thread Dallas B. Warren
How is it that the date and time is wrong?  It is simply telling you
that the simulation will be completed on Sep 16, using the time on the
computer that the program is running on.

Catch ya,

Dr. Dallas Warren
Department of Pharmaceutical Biology 
Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University
381 Royal Parade, Parkville VIC 3010
dallas.war...@pharm.monash.edu.au
+61 3 9903 9167
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When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble
a nail.
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Re: [gmx-users] wierd behavior of mdrun

2009-08-27 Thread Paymon Pirzadeh
One more point:
when I run the job interactively, although it works but date and time
are wrong!

step 0
step 100, will finish Wed Sep 16 16:16:00 2009
step 200, will finish Wed Sep 16 14:32:34 2009
step 300, will finish Wed Sep 16 13:57:51 2009
step 400, will finish Wed Sep 16 11:35:46 2009
step 500, will finish Wed Sep 16 11:50:12 2009
step 600, will finish Wed Sep 16 10:36:38 2009
step 700, will finish Wed Sep 16 09:44:04 2009
step 800, will finish Wed Sep 16 10:07:02 2009
step 900, will finish Wed Sep 16 09:29:25 2009
step 1000, will finish Wed Sep 16 08:59:19 2009
step 1100, will finish Wed Sep 16 09:20:06 2009
step 1200, will finish Wed Sep 16 08:55:47 2009
step 1300, will finish Wed Sep 16 09:13:38 2009
step 1400, will finish Wed Sep 16 08:53:15 2009

Is it a cluster related or GROMACS related issue? Is it important at
all?

Payman



On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 22:06 -0600, Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:
 I made a .tpr file for my md run without any problems (using the bottom
 mdp file). My job submission script is also the same thing I used for
 other jobs which had no problems. But now when I submit this .tpr file,
 only an empty log file is generated! The qstat of the cluster shows that
 the job is running, also the processors are 100% engaged while I have no
 outputs!
 Here is my mdp file:
  title= Yo
 cpp  = cpp
 include  = -I../top
 define   = -DPOSRES
 
 ; Run control
 
 integrator   = md
 dt   = 0.001   ;1 fs
 nsteps   = 300 ;3 ns
 comm_mode= linear
 nstcomm  = 1
 
 ;Output control
 
 nstxout  = 5000
 nstlog   = 5000
 nstenergy= 5000
 nstxtcout= 1500
 nstvout  = 5000
 nstfout  = 5000
 xtc_grps =
 energygrps   =
 
 ; Neighbour Searching
 
 nstlist  = 10
 ns_type  = grid
 rlist= 0.9
 pbc  = xyz
 
 ; Electrostatistics
 
 coulombtype  = PME
 rcoulomb = 0.9
 ;epsilon_r= 1
 
 ; Vdw
 
 vdwtype  = cut-off
 rvdw = 1.2
 DispCorr = EnerPres
 
 ;Ewald
 
 fourierspacing  = 0.12
 pme_order   = 4
 ewald_rtol  = 1e-6
 optimize_fft= yes
 
 ; Temperature coupling
 
 tcoupl   = v-rescale
 ld_seed  = -1
 tc-grps  = System
 tau_t= 0.1
 ref_t= 275
 
 ; Pressure Coupling
 
 Pcoupl   = no
 ;Pcoupltype   = isotropic
 ;tau_p= 1.0
 ;compressibility  = 5.5e-5
 ;ref_p= 1.0
 gen_vel  = yes
 gen_temp = 275
 gen_seed = 173529
 constraint-algorithm = Lincs
 constraints  = all-bonds
 lincs-order  = 4
 
 I am not sure where things go wrong!
 
 Payman
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 07:53 +1000, Mark Abraham wrote:
  Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:
   Can I change the charge of Na ion added from +1 to +0.99 to cancel the
   negative charge exactly? Does that hurt science or simulation?
  
  It's probably irrelevant. The representation of decimal numbers on 
  computers can be inexact, such that things like 0.02 added to itself 100 
  times does not pass a test for equality with 2. You may be observing 
  this kind of thing here. Your protein's [atoms] directive has a running 
  count of the total  charge on the molecule - go and read it and see that 
  each residue has an integral charge. Hopefully you can observe where the 
  rounding error might be occurring and you can make a judgement about 
  whether this might be true.
  
  Mark
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[gmx-users] wierd behavior of mdrun

2009-08-26 Thread Paymon Pirzadeh
I made a .tpr file for my md run without any problems (using the bottom
mdp file). My job submission script is also the same thing I used for
other jobs which had no problems. But now when I submit this .tpr file,
only an empty log file is generated! The qstat of the cluster shows that
the job is running, also the processors are 100% engaged while I have no
outputs!
Here is my mdp file:
 title= Yo
cpp  = cpp
include  = -I../top
define   = -DPOSRES

; Run control

integrator   = md
dt   = 0.001   ;1 fs
nsteps   = 300 ;3 ns
comm_mode= linear
nstcomm  = 1

;Output control

nstxout  = 5000
nstlog   = 5000
nstenergy= 5000
nstxtcout= 1500
nstvout  = 5000
nstfout  = 5000
xtc_grps =
energygrps   =

; Neighbour Searching

nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
rlist= 0.9
pbc  = xyz

; Electrostatistics

coulombtype  = PME
rcoulomb = 0.9
;epsilon_r= 1

; Vdw

vdwtype  = cut-off
rvdw = 1.2
DispCorr = EnerPres

;Ewald

fourierspacing  = 0.12
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol  = 1e-6
optimize_fft= yes

; Temperature coupling

tcoupl   = v-rescale
ld_seed  = -1
tc-grps  = System
tau_t= 0.1
ref_t= 275

; Pressure Coupling

Pcoupl   = no
;Pcoupltype   = isotropic
;tau_p= 1.0
;compressibility  = 5.5e-5
;ref_p= 1.0
gen_vel  = yes
gen_temp = 275
gen_seed = 173529
constraint-algorithm = Lincs
constraints  = all-bonds
lincs-order  = 4

I am not sure where things go wrong!

Payman












On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 07:53 +1000, Mark Abraham wrote:
 Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:
  Can I change the charge of Na ion added from +1 to +0.99 to cancel the
  negative charge exactly? Does that hurt science or simulation?
 
 It's probably irrelevant. The representation of decimal numbers on 
 computers can be inexact, such that things like 0.02 added to itself 100 
 times does not pass a test for equality with 2. You may be observing 
 this kind of thing here. Your protein's [atoms] directive has a running 
 count of the total  charge on the molecule - go and read it and see that 
 each residue has an integral charge. Hopefully you can observe where the 
 rounding error might be occurring and you can make a judgement about 
 whether this might be true.
 
 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] wierd behavior of mdrun

2009-08-26 Thread Mark Abraham

Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:

I made a .tpr file for my md run without any problems (using the bottom
mdp file). My job submission script is also the same thing I used for
other jobs which had no problems. But now when I submit this .tpr file,
only an empty log file is generated! The qstat of the cluster shows that
the job is running, also the processors are 100% engaged while I have no
outputs!


Check that a short version of this job runs fine on a local machine. 
Probably you are having some problem with a file system and/or its 
buffering. Inspect your quotas. Talk to your system admins.


Mark


Here is my mdp file:
 title= Yo
cpp  = cpp
include  = -I../top
define   = -DPOSRES

; Run control

integrator   = md
dt   = 0.001   ;1 fs
nsteps   = 300 ;3 ns
comm_mode= linear
nstcomm  = 1

;Output control

nstxout  = 5000
nstlog   = 5000
nstenergy= 5000
nstxtcout= 1500
nstvout  = 5000
nstfout  = 5000
xtc_grps =
energygrps   =

; Neighbour Searching

nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
rlist= 0.9
pbc  = xyz

; Electrostatistics

coulombtype  = PME
rcoulomb = 0.9
;epsilon_r= 1

; Vdw

vdwtype  = cut-off
rvdw = 1.2
DispCorr = EnerPres

;Ewald

fourierspacing  = 0.12
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol  = 1e-6
optimize_fft= yes

; Temperature coupling

tcoupl   = v-rescale
ld_seed  = -1
tc-grps  = System
tau_t= 0.1
ref_t= 275

; Pressure Coupling

Pcoupl   = no
;Pcoupltype   = isotropic
;tau_p= 1.0
;compressibility  = 5.5e-5
;ref_p= 1.0
gen_vel  = yes
gen_temp = 275
gen_seed = 173529
constraint-algorithm = Lincs
constraints  = all-bonds
lincs-order  = 4

I am not sure where things go wrong!

Payman












On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 07:53 +1000, Mark Abraham wrote:

Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:

Can I change the charge of Na ion added from +1 to +0.99 to cancel the
negative charge exactly? Does that hurt science or simulation?
It's probably irrelevant. The representation of decimal numbers on 
computers can be inexact, such that things like 0.02 added to itself 100 
times does not pass a test for equality with 2. You may be observing 
this kind of thing here. Your protein's [atoms] directive has a running 
count of the total  charge on the molecule - go and read it and see that 
each residue has an integral charge. Hopefully you can observe where the 
rounding error might be occurring and you can make a judgement about 
whether this might be true.


Mark
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