Fwd: [gmx-users] Hi...

2006-09-14 Thread Navratna Vajpai
Hi all.. I wrote this mail yesterday. But could not receive any reply till now. So if someone can suggest something about it. That would be nice. Best regardsNavBegin forwarded message:From: Navratna Vajpai [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: September 13, 2006 10:32:21 AM GMT+02:00To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.orgSubject: [gmx-users] Hi...Reply-To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Dear AllHi.. This is in regard to your previously replied mail regarding the use of GROMOS96 or OPLS-AA or AMBER force field.As you said it depends upon the users taste which one to use. This means that the three on a broad manner should give convergence of the analyzed data set. Infact from my simulation runs using oplss-aa and gromos96, I didn't found that. I tried using the GROMOS96 and opls-aa force field on my small peptides for a period of 20ns and found that with opls-aa even the phi-psi combination of the individual amino acids were incorrect. Actually this always puzzled me to make a choice for the Force field.  The rest of the script was unchanged for the two runs.Could you please comment on the above results? Is there any way really to judge which force field is to be chosen for particular type of analysis?Best regardsNav ***Navratna VajpaiPh. D student in Prof. Grzesiek's laboratoryDepartment of Structural BiologyBiozentrum, University of BaselKlingelbergstrasse 70,CH-4056Basel, Switzerland.Phone- +41 61 267 2080(O)	       +41 78 744 0810(M)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___gmx-users mailing list    gmx-users@gromacs.orghttp://www.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-usersPlease don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED].Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php  ***Navratna VajpaiPh. D student in Prof. Grzesiek's laboratoryDepartment of Structural BiologyBiozentrum, University of BaselKlingelbergstrasse 70,CH-4056Basel, Switzerland.Phone- +41 61 267 2080(O)	       +41 78 744 0810(M)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
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Re: Fwd: [gmx-users] Hi...

2006-09-14 Thread David van der Spoel

Dongsheng Zhang wrote:

On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 06:36 -0700, David van der Spoel wrote:

Navratna Vajpai wrote:
Hi all.. 
I wrote this mail yesterday. But could not receive any reply till now. 
So if someone can suggest something about it. That would be nice. 
Best regards

Nav

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Dear All
Hi.. 
This is in regard to your previously replied mail regarding the use of 
GROMOS96 or OPLS-AA or AMBER force field.
As you said it depends upon the users taste which one to use. This 
means that the three on a broad manner should give convergence of 
the analyzed data set. 
Infact from my simulation runs using oplss-aa and gromos96, I didn't 
found that. I tried using the GROMOS96 and opls-aa force field on my 
small peptides for a period of 20ns and found that with opls-aa even 
the phi-psi combination of the individual amino acids were incorrect. 
Actually this always puzzled me to make a choice for the Force field.  
The rest of the script was unchanged for the two runs.
Could you please comment on the above results? Is there any way really 
to judge which force field is to be chosen for particular type of 
analysis?

Best regards
Nav



what do you mean with incorrect? your question is quite vague.

the g_rama program works only for GROMOS like force fields unfortunately 
but that doesn't mean the phi/psi are wrong.


Could you please give more detail why g_rama program works only for
GROMOS like force field? To my understanding, the reason to get
different values of phi/psi by using g_rama or g_angle is that the
definition of phi/psi in g_rama is not in a conventional way. If we
define phi/psi in the same way as g_rama, I believe g_angle will give
the same answer. No matter which force field is used, these two methods
will give different values. Is my understanding correct?

because atom names are hardcoded. if you give g_angle the right 
definitions in the index file it will work correctly.


All the best!


Dongsheng


 What would be the correct 
result anyway? Maybe your peptide unfolds.


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