Re: [gmx-users] REMD equilibration

2012-03-23 Thread SebastianWaltz
On 03/23/2012 10:41 AM, francesco oteri wrote:
 Dear gromacs users,
 I have to perform REMD simulation, but since it is the first time I apply
 this tecnique I have a question regarding system equilibration.
 As far as I know, befaore starting the REMD each replica has to be
 equlibrated. The equilibration has to be carried out in the NPT ensemble
 or only in the NVT?

Depends on the ensemble you want to simulate. If the replica you are
interested in should be simulated in NVT you should equilibrate this
replica well and take care that all replicas have the same volume
(meaning that the replicas with higher T have very high pressures). You
also can simulate each replica in an NPT ensemble (and also equilibrate
the replicas with NPT). When the pressure is included in the Metropolis
criteria for the exchange of the trajectories.
 Thanks in advance, Francesco

all the best

Sebastian
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RE: [gmx-users] REMD equilibration

2012-03-23 Thread Kukol, Andreas
Hi Francesco,

It should be the same ensemble, in which you want to carry out the production 
REMD.

Andreas


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Subject: [gmx-users] REMD equilibration

Dear gromacs users,
I have to perform REMD simulation, but since it is the first time I apply this 
tecnique I have a question regarding system equilibration.
As far as I know, befaore starting the REMD each replica has to be equlibrated. 
The equilibration has to be carried out in the NPT ensemble 
or only in the NVT?


Thanks in advance, Francesco
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD equilibration

2012-03-23 Thread francesco oteri
I understand,
I am planning to run REMD between 300 and 600 K, so I think it is better
equlibrating in NVT ensemble because at high temperature
water evaporates, is it?

Francesco

Il giorno 23 marzo 2012 10:53, Kukol, Andreas a.ku...@herts.ac.uk ha
scritto:

 Hi Francesco,

 It should be the same ensemble, in which you want to carry out the
 production REMD.

 Andreas

 
 From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org]
 On Behalf Of francesco oteri
 Sent: 23 March 2012 09:41
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Subject: [gmx-users] REMD equilibration

 Dear gromacs users,
 I have to perform REMD simulation, but since it is the first time I apply
 this tecnique I have a question regarding system equilibration.
 As far as I know, befaore starting the REMD each replica has to be
 equlibrated. The equilibration has to be carried out in the NPT ensemble
 or only in the NVT?


 Thanks in advance, Francesco
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD equilibration

2012-03-23 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



francesco oteri wrote:

I understand,
I am planning to run REMD between 300 and 600 K, so I think it is better 
equlibrating in NVT ensemble because at high temperature 
water evaporates, is it?




Another very real concern is the stability of the simulations under NPT.  At 
higher temperatures, the box itself may vary more widely and when the system is 
exchanged, the algorithms can fail.  This phenomenon has been reported by a 
number of other users.  With NVT, this does not happen.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] REMD equilibration

2012-03-23 Thread Erik Marklund

23 mar 2012 kl. 11.37 skrev Justin A. Lemkul:

 
 
 francesco oteri wrote:
 I understand,
 I am planning to run REMD between 300 and 600 K, so I think it is better 
 equlibrating in NVT ensemble because at high temperature water evaporates, 
 is it?
 
 Another very real concern is the stability of the simulations under NPT.  At 
 higher temperatures, the box itself may vary more widely and when the system 
 is exchanged, the algorithms can fail.  This phenomenon has been reported by 
 a number of other users.  With NVT, this does not happen.
 
 -Justin

Very true. The benefit from NPT is on the other hand that the replicas can be 
more distant in temperature space, so if it works then NPT is more efficient.

Erik

 
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