Re: [gmx-users] Cholesterol parameters (Charrm36) in GMX

2012-11-01 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-10-31 16:31, Yorquant Wang wrote:

Hi GMX-users,


Klauda et al (J. Phys. Chem. B, 2012, 116 (1), pp 203–210) recently
provided Cholesterol parameters for Charmm FF.  Does anyone  have the
corresponding .itp file for cholesterol in GMX style?

Thanks for replying,

Yukun

there's a script charmm2gromacs-pvm.py on the gromacs website that you 
can download. Use with care.


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Re: [gmx-users] Cholesterol parameters (Charrm36) in GMX

2012-11-01 Thread Yorquant Wang
Hi David:
I have tested the script.  The input are 1 charmm topology file,
2 corresponding charmm parameter file and 3 foldername. But there are a
lots of top_all***.rtf files and par_all***.prm files in
toppar_c36_aug12/toppar folder, I don't know which pair is the correct
pair. Could you give me a clue?
The new parameter for cholesterol is stored in chol_new.str. If it is
OK that I just put chol_new.str into the toppar_c36_aug12/toppar/
folder and transfer it directly.

Thank you for replying!
yorquant


2012/11/1 David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se

 On 2012-10-31 16:31, Yorquant Wang wrote:

 Hi GMX-users,


 Klauda et al (J. Phys. Chem. B, 2012, 116 (1), pp 203–210) recently
 provided Cholesterol parameters for Charmm FF.  Does anyone  have the
 corresponding .itp file for cholesterol in GMX style?

 Thanks for replying,

 Yukun

  there's a script charmm2gromacs-pvm.py on the gromacs website that you
 can download. Use with care.

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Re: [gmx-users] Cholesterol parameters (Charrm36) in GMX

2012-11-01 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-11-01 09:47, Yorquant Wang wrote:

Hi David:
 I have tested the script.  The input are 1 charmm topology file,
2 corresponding charmm parameter file and 3 foldername. But there are a
lots of top_all***.rtf files and par_all***.prm files in
toppar_c36_aug12/toppar folder, I don't know which pair is the correct
pair. Could you give me a clue?
 The new parameter for cholesterol is stored in chol_new.str. If it is
OK that I just put chol_new.str into the toppar_c36_aug12/toppar/
folder and transfer it directly.


Don't know. I think you  need everything gromacs related that comes out.

Do it in an empty directory.


 Thank you for replying!
yorquant


2012/11/1 David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se


On 2012-10-31 16:31, Yorquant Wang wrote:


Hi GMX-users,


Klauda et al (J. Phys. Chem. B, 2012, 116 (1), pp 203–210) recently
provided Cholesterol parameters for Charmm FF.  Does anyone  have the
corresponding .itp file for cholesterol in GMX style?

Thanks for replying,

Yukun

  there's a script charmm2gromacs-pvm.py on the gromacs website that you

can download. Use with care.

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Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol

2011-04-21 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/21/2011 8:05 PM, Preeti Gupta wrote:

Hi All,

I am new user of gromacs and i want to simulate cholesterol + DOPC as 
my final year project.
firstly i tried gromacs with cholesterol, for which i have downloaded 
cholesterol pdb and itp file from gromacs site by Monika Hoeltje.
i m getting the following error- Residue 'CHOL' not found in residue 
topology database.


... which you need if only if you want to use pdb2gmx on a structure file.

I tried PRODRG for generating cholesterol topology file and coordinate 
file, but still i got the error-

invalid directive of atomtype.


So you've got some file format wrong...

can someone give me charmm residue topology file for cholesterol or 
with some solution.


I think you will profit from doing some tutorial material and looking at 
the examples in chapter 5 of the manual.


Mark



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Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol

2010-10-01 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



#ZHAO LINA# wrote:

Hi,

Are there some tutorials handling the cholesterol stuff. I read several 
literature but choked in some places.




I said this to someone just the other day: if it's not linked at 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Tutorials or you can't find it with Google, 
it probably doesn't exist.


What's more, handling the cholesterol stuff doesn't really lend itself to 
getting useful help.  What are you trying to do?  Derive parameters?  Build a 
membrane?  A micelle?  An LDL complex?


-Justin


Thanks with best regards,

lina



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RE: [gmx-users] cholesterol

2010-10-01 Thread #ZHAO LINA#
Hi, 

It will be so bad for me if it really does not exist. 
I wish probably except asking Dr. google, someone else will be able to provide 
me some links.
I once just wanted to see some examples how they handled its topology even I 
got one from 
PRODRG server, but it has problems later. Not so much in those specific 
simulations yet, just beginning stage.   

lina


From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf 
of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 8:35 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol

#ZHAO LINA# wrote:
 Hi,

 Are there some tutorials handling the cholesterol stuff. I read several
 literature but choked in some places.


I said this to someone just the other day: if it's not linked at
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Tutorials or you can't find it with Google,
it probably doesn't exist.

What's more, handling the cholesterol stuff doesn't really lend itself to
getting useful help.  What are you trying to do?  Derive parameters?  Build a
membrane?  A micelle?  An LDL complex?

-Justin

 Thanks with best regards,

 lina


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MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
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Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol

2010-10-01 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



#ZHAO LINA# wrote:
Hi, 

It will be so bad for me if it really does not exist. 
I wish probably except asking Dr. google, someone else will be able to provide me some links.
I once just wanted to see some examples how they handled its topology even I got one from 
PRODRG server, but it has problems later. Not so much in those specific simulations yet, just beginning stage.   



If your problem is with deriving parameters, then do a thorough literature 
search.  Simulations with cholesterol have been done with numerous force fields, 
so parameterization methodology and/or suitable parameters should be available.


-Justin


lina


From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf 
of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 8:35 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol

#ZHAO LINA# wrote:

Hi,

Are there some tutorials handling the cholesterol stuff. I read several
literature but choked in some places.



I said this to someone just the other day: if it's not linked at
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Tutorials or you can't find it with Google,
it probably doesn't exist.

What's more, handling the cholesterol stuff doesn't really lend itself to
getting useful help.  What are you trying to do?  Derive parameters?  Build a
membrane?  A micelle?  An LDL complex?

-Justin


Thanks with best regards,

lina



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RE: [gmx-users] cholesterol

2010-10-01 Thread #ZHAO LINA#
Hi,

Thanks for your answer, I will spend some time to figure it out. 

By the way, any links or literature or something relevant to it warmly welcome 
to introduce them to me.

Best regards,

lina

From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf 
of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:06 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol

#ZHAO LINA# wrote:
 Hi,

 It will be so bad for me if it really does not exist.
 I wish probably except asking Dr. google, someone else will be able to 
 provide me some links.
 I once just wanted to see some examples how they handled its topology even I 
 got one from
 PRODRG server, but it has problems later. Not so much in those specific 
 simulations yet, just beginning stage.


If your problem is with deriving parameters, then do a thorough literature
search.  Simulations with cholesterol have been done with numerous force fields,
so parameterization methodology and/or suitable parameters should be available.

-Justin

 lina

 
 From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf 
 of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu]
 Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 8:35 PM
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol

 #ZHAO LINA# wrote:
 Hi,

 Are there some tutorials handling the cholesterol stuff. I read several
 literature but choked in some places.


 I said this to someone just the other day: if it's not linked at
 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Tutorials or you can't find it with 
 Google,
 it probably doesn't exist.

 What's more, handling the cholesterol stuff doesn't really lend itself to
 getting useful help.  What are you trying to do?  Derive parameters?  Build a
 membrane?  A micelle?  An LDL complex?

 -Justin

 Thanks with best regards,

 lina


 --
 

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 Ph.D. Candidate
 ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
 MILES-IGERT Trainee
 Department of Biochemistry
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Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol

2010-10-01 Thread Thomas Piggot

I can think of a few cholesterol topologies just off the top of my head:

GROMOS43A1-S3 forcefield has an entry for cholesterol

There is a stream file for cholesterol available for use with the CHARMM 
forcefields.


There are other available too, you should use google to find them. I 
have never used any of them so would not like to comment on which to 
use, this is up to you to decide after a thorough read of the literature.


Cheers

Tom

#ZHAO LINA# wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for your answer, I will spend some time to figure it out. 


By the way, any links or literature or something relevant to it warmly welcome 
to introduce them to me.

Best regards,

lina

From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf 
of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:06 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol

#ZHAO LINA# wrote:

Hi,

It will be so bad for me if it really does not exist.
I wish probably except asking Dr. google, someone else will be able to provide 
me some links.
I once just wanted to see some examples how they handled its topology even I 
got one from
PRODRG server, but it has problems later. Not so much in those specific 
simulations yet, just beginning stage.



If your problem is with deriving parameters, then do a thorough literature
search.  Simulations with cholesterol have been done with numerous force fields,
so parameterization methodology and/or suitable parameters should be available.

-Justin


lina


From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf 
of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 8:35 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol

#ZHAO LINA# wrote:

Hi,

Are there some tutorials handling the cholesterol stuff. I read several
literature but choked in some places.


I said this to someone just the other day: if it's not linked at
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Tutorials or you can't find it with Google,
it probably doesn't exist.

What's more, handling the cholesterol stuff doesn't really lend itself to
getting useful help.  What are you trying to do?  Derive parameters?  Build a
membrane?  A micelle?  An LDL complex?

-Justin


Thanks with best regards,

lina


--


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Ph.D. Candidate
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
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http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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RE: [gmx-users] cholesterol

2010-10-01 Thread #ZHAO LINA#
Thanks for your clue.

I found the very interesting paper about that force field.

Thanks again,

lina



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Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol

I can think of a few cholesterol topologies just off the top of my head:

GROMOS43A1-S3 forcefield has an entry for cholesterol

There is a stream file for cholesterol available for use with the CHARMM
forcefields.

There are other available too, you should use google to find them. I
have never used any of them so would not like to comment on which to
use, this is up to you to decide after a thorough read of the literature.

Cheers

Tom

#ZHAO LINA# wrote:
 Hi,

 Thanks for your answer, I will spend some time to figure it out.

 By the way, any links or literature or something relevant to it warmly 
 welcome to introduce them to me.

 Best regards,

 lina
 
 From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf 
 of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu]
 Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:06 PM
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol

 #ZHAO LINA# wrote:
 Hi,

 It will be so bad for me if it really does not exist.
 I wish probably except asking Dr. google, someone else will be able to 
 provide me some links.
 I once just wanted to see some examples how they handled its topology even I 
 got one from
 PRODRG server, but it has problems later. Not so much in those specific 
 simulations yet, just beginning stage.


 If your problem is with deriving parameters, then do a thorough literature
 search.  Simulations with cholesterol have been done with numerous force 
 fields,
 so parameterization methodology and/or suitable parameters should be 
 available.

 -Justin

 lina

 
 From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on 
 behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu]
 Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 8:35 PM
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol

 #ZHAO LINA# wrote:
 Hi,

 Are there some tutorials handling the cholesterol stuff. I read several
 literature but choked in some places.

 I said this to someone just the other day: if it's not linked at
 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Tutorials or you can't find it with 
 Google,
 it probably doesn't exist.

 What's more, handling the cholesterol stuff doesn't really lend itself to
 getting useful help.  What are you trying to do?  Derive parameters?  Build a
 membrane?  A micelle?  An LDL complex?

 -Justin

 Thanks with best regards,

 lina

 --
 

 Justin A. Lemkul
 Ph.D. Candidate
 ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
 MILES-IGERT Trainee
 Department of Biochemistry
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 Blacksburg, VA
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 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin

 
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Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol distortion

2008-04-14 Thread Steffen Wolf

Hi Jian,
seems like there's something seriously wrong with the topology of the 
cholesterols - check if the angles  impropers are set and reasonable.

Cheers
Steffen

Hi, all:
I got the initial structure of a DPPC bilayer from Dr. Karttunen's 
website, use the parameters (hopefully) from their paper: Patra, 
Karttunen, Hyvönen, Falck, Lindqvist, Vattulainen, Biophys. J. *84*, 
3636-3645 (2003) to run for 100ns then replace some DPPC molecules 
with cholesterols, do the energy minimization, run for 20ns and the 
cholesterols are distorted as shown in the attached file.


Here are parameters for the pure DPPC run which I deem important:

nstcomm  = 1
comm_grps= DPPC SOL
nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist= 1.0
coulombtype  = PME

rcoulomb = 1.0
vdwtype  = Cutoff
rvdw = 1.0
ewald_rtol   = 1e-5
optimize_fft = yes
tcoupl   = Berendsen
tau_t= 0.1   0.1
tc_grps  = DPPC  SOL
ref_t= 323   323
pcoupl   = Berendsen
pcoupltype   = semiisotropic
tau_p= 1  1  
compressibility  = 4.5e-5 4.5e-5
ref_p= 1.01.0  
gen_vel  = yes

gen_temp = 325
gen_seed = 173529
constraints  = all-bonds
constraint_algorithm = LINCS
lincs_order  = 4

For the DPPC-CHOL combined system I only changed corresponding 
sections to:


comm_grps= DPPC CHOL  SOL
tau_t= 0.1   0.1   0.1
tc_grps  = DPPC  CHOL  SOL
ref_t= 323   323   323

Any suggestion is appreciated. Thank you.

Jian





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Re: [gmx-users] cholesterol distortion

2008-04-13 Thread Mark Abraham

Jian Dai wrote:

For the DPPC-CHOL combined system I only changed corresponding sections to:

comm_grps= DPPC CHOL  SOL
tau_t= 0.1   0.1   0.1
tc_grps  = DPPC  CHOL  SOL
ref_t= 323   323   323

Any suggestion is appreciated. Thank you.


The points made here 
http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Thermostats#What_Not_To_Do apply to 
these cholesterols. You should expect the thermal properties of 
cholesterol to resemble that of DPPC, and so coupling them together is 
far more sensible.


Otherwise, it's hard to see from a still image without hydrogens whether 
the behaviour is actually bad.


Mark
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