RE: [gmx-users] problem with freeze-group : Large VCM(Berk Hess)

2007-05-23 Thread Berk Hess





From: jagannath mondal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [gmx-users] problem with freeze-group : Large VCM(Berk Hess)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 19:18:46 +0100 (BST)

Hi Berk,
Thanks a lot for your reply. According to your
suggestion, I did not remove the cmm  for the WHOLE
molecule  i.e I used 'cmm-mode=None'for the
entire system. (Did you mean that I should have
removed the restriction only for freeze-group or for
whole system?)
  But now I have two problems:
   1) the simulation is now going for longer time but
finally again crashes.
   2) I freezed the mainchain  because I did not want
the mainchain

move at all and I wanted the only side-chain move. But
, when I am

visualising the trajectory in VMD, I am finding that
whole molecule is


tumbling  including the main-chain i.e  the whole
molecule is changing

its position. As ususal, I did not use pressure
coupling . Do you think  that the movement of whole
molecule is expected during freeze group simulation?
should I  modify something else in my parameter file?
  I am again giving the .mdp file.


Sorry, I missed this email.

I assume cmm-mode is a typo only in your mail, not in your mdp file.

In principal frozen atoms should not move.
However, if you are freezing part of a molecule and there are
free groups connected with constraints to the frozen group,
you could have some motion.
But from your mail it seems like something else is wrong.

Why do you want to freeze part of a molecule?
Wouldn't position restraints be a better approach?

Berk.

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RE: [gmx-users] problem with freeze-group : Large VCM(Berk Hess)

2007-05-12 Thread jagannath mondal
Hi Berk,
Thanks a lot for your reply. According to your
suggestion, I did not remove the cmm  for the WHOLE
molecule  i.e I used 'cmm-mode=None'for the
entire system. (Did you mean that I should have
removed the restriction only for freeze-group or for
whole system?)
  But now I have two problems:
   1) the simulation is now going for longer time but
finally again crashes.
   2) I freezed the mainchain  because I did not want
the mainchain 

move at all and I wanted the only side-chain move. But
, when I am 

visualising the trajectory in VMD, I am finding that
whole molecule is 


tumbling  including the main-chain i.e  the whole
molecule is changing 

its position. As ususal, I did not use pressure
coupling . Do you think  that the movement of whole
molecule is expected during freeze group simulation?
should I  modify something else in my parameter file?
  I am again giving the .mdp file.
--- Berk Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 From: jagannath mondal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 gmx-users@gromacs.org
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 Subject: [gmx-users] problem with freeze-group :
 Large VCM
 Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 00:19:53 +0100 (BST)
 
 Hi Gromacs user,
 
   I am a gromacs beginner struggling with
 freeze-group simulation.
   I was trying to simulate a
 beta-peptide(un-natural
 peptide ) by relaxing only the side-chains but I am
 getting error regarding large VCM and
 The system has only 1 peptide (14-residue ) and No
 solvent.  So, for this purpose , I generated a
 freeze-group which contains all the main-chain
 atoms.
 Initially I was using pressure-coupling and it was
 giving error in simulation.   Later   I found many
 discussion on this freeze-group simulation in
 user-archive and manual and  accordingly
I did not use pressure-coupling in my simulation
 and before the simulation, I minimised my peptide
 using steep
   integrator and then  with the minimised structure
 I
 tried a MD run. But after 40 ps, the mdrun crashes
 with complaint about nsgrid and large VCM:
 
 You should not remove com motion when using freeze
 groups,
 since the com is no longer free to move.
 
 We should let grompp print a warning for this.
 
 Berk.
 

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