Re: [gmx-users] How to avoid adding ions close to ligand

2012-11-26 Thread Peter C. Lai
There is nothing stopping you from replacing the ion in your binding
pocket with the original water and then replacing another water elsewhere
with the ion at the oxygen's coordintes, then running genconf to renumber
the gro file.

On 2012-11-26 06:25:47PM -0800, Yun Shi wrote:
> I did hope the ions will move out eventually.
> 
> But after my ~70ns of conventional MD (with duplicate MD runs and the
> protein as a dimer with identical sequence), they were still there in
> the binding site.
> 
> So I assume it would be much better to start without any salt ions
> beside my ligand.
> 
> Could anyone suggest a way around this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Yun
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:39 PM, David van der Spoel
>  wrote:
> > On 2012-11-26 21:28, Yun Shi wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> I am doing conventional MD of a protein-ligand system with a mobile
> >> loop as part of the binding site.
> >>
> >> Presumably, the positive Arg side chain on the mobile loop will
> >> eventually move towards the negative carboxylic group on my ligand.
> >> But I found the addition of NaCl (0.15 M conc.) had some effect on
> >> this movement, since the random addition could put Na+ or Cl- ions
> >> between the mobile loop and my ligand.
> >>
> >> I tried generating a index containing only SOL far not close to my
> >> ligand, but apparently genion requires a continuous solvent group. So
> >> is there any other way to achieve this? Trying different numbers for
> >> -seed option seems inefficient and is dependent on luck.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Yun
> >>
> > Maybe your assumption is wrong?
> >
> > Run a long MD simulation and you will find out.
> >
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Re: [gmx-users] How to avoid adding ions close to ligand

2012-11-26 Thread Yun Shi
I did hope the ions will move out eventually.

But after my ~70ns of conventional MD (with duplicate MD runs and the
protein as a dimer with identical sequence), they were still there in
the binding site.

So I assume it would be much better to start without any salt ions
beside my ligand.

Could anyone suggest a way around this?

Thanks,
Yun

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:39 PM, David van der Spoel
 wrote:
> On 2012-11-26 21:28, Yun Shi wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I am doing conventional MD of a protein-ligand system with a mobile
>> loop as part of the binding site.
>>
>> Presumably, the positive Arg side chain on the mobile loop will
>> eventually move towards the negative carboxylic group on my ligand.
>> But I found the addition of NaCl (0.15 M conc.) had some effect on
>> this movement, since the random addition could put Na+ or Cl- ions
>> between the mobile loop and my ligand.
>>
>> I tried generating a index containing only SOL far not close to my
>> ligand, but apparently genion requires a continuous solvent group. So
>> is there any other way to achieve this? Trying different numbers for
>> -seed option seems inefficient and is dependent on luck.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Yun
>>
> Maybe your assumption is wrong?
>
> Run a long MD simulation and you will find out.
>
> --
> David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology
> Dept. of Cell & Molec. Biol., Uppsala University.
> Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone:  +46184714205.
> sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se
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Re: [gmx-users] How to avoid adding ions close to ligand

2012-11-26 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-11-26 21:28, Yun Shi wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am doing conventional MD of a protein-ligand system with a mobile
loop as part of the binding site.

Presumably, the positive Arg side chain on the mobile loop will
eventually move towards the negative carboxylic group on my ligand.
But I found the addition of NaCl (0.15 M conc.) had some effect on
this movement, since the random addition could put Na+ or Cl- ions
between the mobile loop and my ligand.

I tried generating a index containing only SOL far not close to my
ligand, but apparently genion requires a continuous solvent group. So
is there any other way to achieve this? Trying different numbers for
-seed option seems inefficient and is dependent on luck.

Thanks,
Yun


Maybe your assumption is wrong?

Run a long MD simulation and you will find out.

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Dept. of Cell & Molec. Biol., Uppsala University.
Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone:  +46184714205.
sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se
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