Re: [gmx-users] MSD and frequency of writing trajectories

2013-05-22 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

For particles that diffuse more than half a box length between frames will 
appear as if they haven't moved much, assuming you have periodic boundary 
conditions.

Erik

On 22 May 2013, at 11:41, Anna Akinshina anna.akinsh...@manchester.ac.uk 
wrote:

 Dear Gromacs Users,
 
 I have a question interpreting obtained msd data.
 I need to calculate diffusion coefficient for a single argon atom in a box of 
 water (500 molecules).
 During the calculations (50ns) I write both trr and xtc trajectories, but to 
 save space I write trr for whole system very seldom (every 5 steps = 100 
 ps)
 but in xtc I have argon only (no water) and write more often (every 1000 
 steps =  2 ps).
 
 When I analysed the results using g_msd I was surprised that the msd  curves 
 obtained from trr and xtc trajectories differ a lot, what affect the 
 resulting diffusion coefficients.
 
 If I save trr more often, like every 1 steps (20ps) the results from both 
  files coincide.
 
 Does the msd results depend on how often you write trajectories?
 If yes, what frequency for writing the trajectories for future calculation of 
 the diffusion coefficient would be reasonable and how long should be the 
 calculations?
 
 Thanks you
 Anna
 ---
 Dr Anna Akinshina
 School of Chemical Engineering  Analytical Science
 The University of Manchester, UK
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] MSD and frequency of writing trajectories

2013-05-22 Thread Mark Abraham
Sure. What's the MSD of a pendulum if you only sample at a rate equal to
the period? How often you want to sample depends on the time scale of what
you want to observe. That might be up to you to measure :-)

Mark


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Anna Akinshina 
anna.akinsh...@manchester.ac.uk wrote:

 Dear Gromacs Users,

 I have a question interpreting obtained msd data.
 I need to calculate diffusion coefficient for a single argon atom in a box
 of water (500 molecules).
 During the calculations (50ns) I write both trr and xtc trajectories, but
 to save space I write trr for whole system very seldom (every 5 steps =
 100 ps)
 but in xtc I have argon only (no water) and write more often (every 1000
 steps =  2 ps).

 When I analysed the results using g_msd I was surprised that the msd
  curves obtained from trr and xtc trajectories differ a lot, what affect
 the resulting diffusion coefficients.

 If I save trr more often, like every 1 steps (20ps) the results from
 both  files coincide.

 Does the msd results depend on how often you write trajectories?
 If yes, what frequency for writing the trajectories for future calculation
 of the diffusion coefficient would be reasonable and how long should be the
 calculations?

 Thanks you
 Anna
 ---
 Dr Anna Akinshina
 School of Chemical Engineering  Analytical Science
 The University of Manchester, UK


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