Re: [gmx-users] Simulation Break = Due to bad domain decomposition ? (MPI) = Gromacs Version 3.3.3

2010-01-01 Thread Mark Abraham

Chih-Ying Lin wrote:
 
 
Hi

I used Gromacs version 3.3.3.


OK, but unless you need scientific continuity with earlier work, use the 
much faster 4.0.7. Additionally, domain decomposition was not 
implemented before 4.0, so either you're mistaken about your subject 
line, or you're using a 4.0.x version of mdrun, or something.


My simulation system = one protein + 20 ligand + water molecules ( 7x 7x 
7 ) 


What does (7x 7x 7) mean?


MPI setting = #PBS -l nodes=4:ppn=4,arch=x86_64   = 16 nodes in total
After doing the energy minimization, = the potential energy is 
extremely high ( say, ten to the 9th order )
I visualized the  Simulation-System-EM-solvated.gro  after the energy 
minimization. 
Then, I found that the Simulation Sysmtem is devided into 16 
domains very clearly and the molecules (protein, ligand, and 
water) break into atoms in the boundaries.


I can't reconcile your description with any known behaviour of any 
version of GROMACS. Can you post before and after screenshots on a 
webpage please (e.g. photobucket).


The odds are excellent that a newish user is doing something wrong, 
rather than there being a novel problem with an old version GROMACS, 
however.


I have checked that the 20 ligands are not overlapped each other and are 
not overlapped with protein from the beginning.
 
 
 
More, i have created 10 alike system and each is with one protein + 20 
ligand + water molecules
Two of them get the minus potential energy after energy minimization 
and I can continue running the MD simulation successfully.
Others of them get the extreme high positive potential energy and the 
system is devided into 16 domains after energy minimization and the 
simulation broke afterall.


Well, some of them may be OK, and some are ill-formed. This is not 
evidence of a problem with GROMACS, but might be evidence of an 
ill-formed workflow.



With one protein + 10 ligand + water molecules, ( 6 x 6 x 6 )
There is no problems like that.


You got lucky, or used a different procedure, or something. Without a 
full description of your preparation protocol, there's nothing to be said.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Simulation Break = Due to bad domain decomposition ? (MPI) = Gromacs Version 3.3.3

2010-01-01 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Lin,

 I used Gromacs version 3.3.3.

There is no domain decomposition in gromacs 3.3.3.

Furthermore, you again give no account of what you're doing in terms
of command lines and don't show the grompp output. This is pointless.

Tsjerk

 My simulation system = one protein + 20 ligand + water molecules ( 7x 7x 7
 )
 MPI setting = #PBS -l nodes=4:ppn=4,arch=x86_64   = 16 nodes in total
 After doing the energy minimization, = the potential energy is extremely
 high ( say, ten to the 9th order )
 I visualized the  Simulation-System-EM-solvated.gro  after the energy
 minimization.
 Then, I found that the Simulation Sysmtem is devided into 16 domains very
 clearly and the molecules (protein, ligand, and water) break into atoms in
 the boundaries.
 I have checked that the 20 ligands are not overlapped each other and are not
 overlapped with protein from the beginning.



 More, i have created 10 alike system and each is with one protein + 20
 ligand + water molecules
 Two of them get the minus potential energy after energy minimization and I
 can continue running the MD simulation successfully.
 Others of them get the extreme high positive potential energy and the
 system is devided into 16 domains after energy minimization and the
 simulation broke afterall.



 With one protein + 10 ligand + water molecules, ( 6 x 6 x 6 )
 There is no problems like that.


 Please give me your ideas to solve the problem.

 Thank you
 Lin

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