Re: Rockingham Park and the Northern Computer Shows: Sept. 28th (sic)
Greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > btw, I think you meant Sept. 18th -- that is the date they list for > Rockingham Park Track in Salem, NH http://www.ncshows.com/showcoupon.htm You are right, it is September 18th, not the 28th. But how could it be a GNHLUG event without at least one wrong date being mentioned? I also note from the show guide that those who have stuff to sell and "set up" have to be there at 0730 hours (someone once told me that there was a "7:30 in the *morning* as well as at night) and no one will be allowed to set up after 0845 hours. AND the two tables will cost $200 + $10. for electricity.a lot more expensive than Hoss Traders. (sigh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I'd be happy to extoll the virtues with you :-) The more "moral support" we get, the better. md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Rockingham Park and the Northern Computer Shows: Sept. 28th (sic)
Sounds interesting. I do not have anything to sell, but I might go just to check it out. I'd be happy to extoll the virtues with you :-) btw, I think you meant Sept. 18th -- that is the date they list for Rockingham Park Track in Salem, NH http://www.ncshows.com/showcoupon.htm - Greg ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
For Sale: New Epson Stylus Photo R300M printer - $175 down from $229+shipping
Hi, Right after Christmas we had a big discussion about printers, and about that time my loyal, six-year old Cannon gave out on me. I decided to buy an Epson Photo printer because: o it could print to printable CDs and DVDs o it seemed to be supported by Linux o it had the capability of printing off picture CDs filled with photos even when not attached to a computer. You simply plug in a USB-based CD drive to the printer o it could print directly from a wide range of memory cards, including the new xD ones that fit in my Olympus o it had a little monitor that allowed you to crop, chose pictures, etc. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=37472318o http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=26323&infoType=Overview I was ordering it right after Christmas so all of the local stores were out, PC Connection was out of stock, etc. So I ordered it from CDW, who told me that it was in stock. Wrong. Then they told me that it would be in "soon". I waited two weeks, had to go on a trip. "It will be in when you get back". Two weeks later, nada. So I canceled the order. I went down to CompUSA and bought one, hooked it up and it worked great. I even have it working through a D-LINK wireless printserver so I can access it from any place in my house with my notebook. No wires. Cool. Then a week later the CDW unit shows up. I call them up, give them heck, and get an NRA sent to me. I go on another trip. When I get back I find out that the NRA has expired, and I would have to get another one. I give up. So now I have this Epson Stylus Photo R300M printer, still in its unopened box, in my garage. I look on the Epson site and they have it marked at $229., which is what I paid. I will let it go for $175., but you have to come pick it up. I live in Amherst, NH. Right out of the box it works great with SuSE 9.1, although you have to tell CUPS that it is a 915 for some reason, but that is mentioned in the CUPS documentation. With standard settings it prints a little light from Linux, but I like that since it saves ink. I assume that by playing with the CUPs settings that you can get it to print darker. Printing from the memory cards with glossy paper, the pictures are just stellar. I might add that I have had no problems with the ink stopping up even though I only print about two or three pages at a time and I am often gone for a week or two between print sessions. md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Is there a Knoppix equivelent for PowerPC (Mac)?
Bill McGonigle writes: > On Aug 12, 2004, at 14:43, Bill Freeman wrote: > > >Just for grins I tried holding C while it booted. No > > difference. (I get a chord played rather than what I'd call a ding or > > dong.) Might you know how to ask the OS whether it believes that it > > has a CD? > > Does it sound like this: > >http://www.tcp.com/~dschaub/Files/Crash/cpwrlc.aiff > > Those are death-chimes, or BIOS-level boot failures. A bum drive can > cause that. I haven't gone to listen to the sound because 1: I'm not suffering any crashing, it just goes ahead and boots MacOS no matter what I type or hold down; and 2. My SO, a MacPerson, has now heard it and isn't offended by the chime sound. Also, the drive works in general, since, once having paper clipped it to put in the disk, it shows up on the desktop and can be read (though I'm not sure how to look at a text file, since it bemoans the lack of an associated application, but at least it reads the directory information). It can then eject the CD, so the drawer motor is working too. Probably just the front panel eject button is broken. I know that software can tell the drive to ignore the button, but I presume that the power up default is enabled, and it doesn't seem to matter how early I press the button. I'll crack the case when there's time and have a poke around. The button is either a separate switch, or a mechanical remoting from the button on the drive, since the drive is recessed to far in to the panel for that to be the actual original drive button. > On Aug 12, 2004, at 15:04, Bill Freeman wrote: > > > I wonder if it's firmware predates > > bootable CDs. > > CD booting goes back to the Mac II line so it's probably not a ROM > issue. That's good to know. I've tried, however, instances of both the holding (is there a specific range of times that the key press must fall within?) of and the typing of both just "C" and (though I suspect that it may only apply to SCSI drives) "CMD-OPT-SHIFT-DELETE", without success (by which I mean that it just goes ahead and boots MacOS). I have also tried the "apple" menu item called something like "startup disk" where the CD appears and can be highlighted. There's no OK or Apply button, but my SO confirms that highlighting it and closing it is all that you're supposed to have to do. Same result, just comes up in MacOS. It could be that the Knoppix/PowerPC iso that Chris Brody pointed out to me at http://debian.tu-bs.de/knoppix/powerPC/ isn't in a format that the Mac ROM or OS recognizes as bootable. There doesn't seem to be any purpose/targeting documentation, but I haven't looked to hard either. I guess that I should look for some iso that actually claims to be MacBootable. On the other hand, and old MacFriend says that if I do the "CMD-OPT-P-R" salute at boot (reset PRAM, equivalent of CMOS on a PC), I ought to get at least a second chime (or a series of chimes if I continue to hold the combination). No dice. Makes me wonder if there's a jumper option inside to make the Mac "safe" from such keyboard manipulations, or some such. Clearly the PRAM battery is dead, since it doesn't keep time across a power off, but you'ld think that resetting PRAM would be enabled in the PRAM is bogus state, else how? > ... but every desktop save the > slot-loading iMacs should have a commodity ATAPI CD-ROM drive with a > button extender. Ah. I'll definitely have to crack the case. Bill ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: rant on pathetic example of Microsoft FUD
On Sat, 2004-08-14 at 11:19, Derek Martin wrote: ... > And these experiences taught you not to ever use another Microsoft > product, right? ;-) You get what you deserve when you choose Microsoft. (yes, you may quote me on this) -- Fred -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- place "[hey]" in your subject. There are inflows and outflows -- and you're just a little node. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: rant on pathetic example of Microsoft FUD
On Sat, 2004-08-14 at 10:24, Hewitt Tech wrote: ... > You bring up an interesting observation about Microsoft's application > products. Microsoft seems to specialize in making applications that are > incompatible or difficult to mimic. One product that I found rather > obnoxious is their "Picture It" product. All I needed was a tool to create > picture albums that could be easily setup on a web site. The application > insisted on inserting links to the Microsoft web site which were "no > return". If you inadvertently clicked on one of the "Picture It" links you > found your browser sitting on the Microsoft web site and clicking the back > button wouldn't return you to the picture album. Really annoying and totally > gratuitous. > > Another Microsoft application that locks you in (don't they all?) is their > Publisher product. If you create web pages with it, you can forget about > using any other tool to access the source. > > -Alex Micro$oft reminds me strongly of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation in Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy, whose founders will be up against the wall when The Revolution comes. They've even tried to introduce "Pleasant Personalities" into some of their products, such as that annoying and totally unhelpful paper-clip in Office, and "Microsoft Bob", if anyone recalls that abortion. Up against the wall, Balmer and Gates... -- Fred -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- place "[hey]" in your subject. There are inflows and outflows -- and you're just a little node. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: rant on pathetic example of Microsoft FUD
Please take the time to trim quoted material from your posts. We already read Greg's rant... We didn't need to see the whole thing again in your response. Thanks! :) On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 10:24:16AM -0400, Hewitt Tech wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Greg Rundlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 1:07 AM > Subject: rant on pathetic example of Microsoft FUD > > > I was developing a CD-ROM product which contains multiple Microsoft > > PowerPointless (tm) presentations. [GIGANTIC SNIP] > Another Microsoft application that locks you in (don't they all?) is their > Publisher product. If you create web pages with it, you can forget about > using any other tool to access the source. And these experiences taught you not to ever use another Microsoft product, right? ;-) -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank the spammers. pgpXbKO8C4n7g.pgp Description: PGP signature
Rockingham Park and the Northern Computer Shows: Sept. 28th
Hello, As you know, twice a year we go to Hosstraders to camp out, drink beverages, and otherwise create havoc. Well, the next Hosstraders is not until October 1st and second, so I thought we might get some practice in convincing people that Linux is great if we went to the Northern Computer Show at Rockingham. For those of you who are not familiar with it, Northern Computer Shows http://www.ncshows.com/ is a place where people (both retailers and "common folk") can put up tables to sell "stuff". There can be new "stuff", old "stuff", but mostly good, working, useful "stuff" (and therefore often a step above "Hosstraders"). It is indoors, air conditioned, free of bugs (the organic kind) and people go there to buy and sell, not just swap war stories. The last time I seriously went to one was about two or three years ago. I purchased two tables, set up some Linux tables and tried to convince people that Linux was great. As always, perhaps a bit before my time. I am going to try again at their Rockingham Show in Salem, NH. I have a few old, but working systems to sell..but mostly I am going to extoll the virtues of our favorite operating system. The last time I went I made up copies of the hardware compatability list and gave them out to all the vendors who were selling systems and parts. That way when people approached them and said "is there a driver for Linux", these people could say yes or no. Some people would not take the compatability list because they said they would never sell a Linux system. Let's see if times have changed. I do not want to make up a lot of CDs for this crowd. There will be other vendors there selling CDs and I don't want to compete with thembut I will bring along a couple of the latest Knoppix and Morphix CDs for demos and testing of systems. I am willing to donate some of my table space for those of you who want to sell some hardware, but here are the rules: o has to be running a modern version of Linux (2.4 or 2.6 kernel). o can be lacking keyboard, mouse, monitor, but otherwise should be "complete" (CD-ROM of some speed, etc.) o have enough memory so it is not a "dog" running (CPU speed is "what they get")so don't strip out all the memory before you bring it o have enough disk to have a reasonable distribution in other words, something that the person can go home and plug it in and have it work, be able to update it if they want, etc. 500 year-old Sparcstations, etc. keep for hosstraders. So, discussion anyone? Should we make up some "New User Night" CDs? Some demos? Some signs? Use the projector to put on a talk? I will be going up to the show in Concord today to talk to the management about what can be done. md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Site defaced - what next?
On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 23:49, Greg Rundlett wrote: ... > In the past, I tended to throw a lot of stuff up on my website, to play > with it, and experiment to see what other people liked. I had over > 20,000 files on my site. The next version won't be so unweildly, or > vulnerable. Yep, those adventurous days wild experimentation are over. :-( However, you could, if you have a broadband connection, considering setting up a test server at your home just for trying out new stuff before it goes on your production server. Even better, you could configure your test system so that you can restore it to a known clean state after testing something questionable. That should help as well. -- Fred -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- place "[hey]" in your subject. There are inflows and outflows -- and you're just a little node. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: rant on pathetic example of Microsoft FUD
- Original Message - From: "Greg Rundlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 1:07 AM Subject: rant on pathetic example of Microsoft FUD > I was developing a CD-ROM product which contains multiple Microsoft > PowerPointless (tm) presentations. The CD would launch an html Table of > Contents page using auto-run. To make the TOC page layout the same as > the .ppt files, I simply created a slide in PowerPoint with appropriate > links to the other CD materials, and then exported it as an HTML file. > > Microsoft PowerPoint's idea of HTML is not anything you would recognize > surfing the web and 'viewing source'. Of course, this is not news to > anyone who has ever seen the cruft that Microsoft Word spits out as > HTML. These apps speak their own strange dialect of an otherwise > perfectly standardized and specified language. This strange tongue > seems to have been originated by a multi-billionaire cult leader from > Redmond, WA. His followers have unwittingly or through no intelligence > of their own spread this Word to the far reaches of the planet. > > I was ready to sic tidy on it, but figured if my browser can ignore[1] > all this crud, then I will not bother. However, I then discovered their > fiendish plot. Not only do they create 10x the amount of needed code > just to do the HTML and CSS; they also generate a crateful of > JavaScript, including a browser-detection routine that basically says: > > "You're not using Microsoft Internet Explorer. This page may > contain features unsupported by your browser. Do you wish to continue?" > > Now they've turned a simple HTML page with a table into something that > sounds potentially dangerous. (I had better go get that Internet > Explorer v. 4.01 so I don't have to worry about these kind of problems.) > > Actually, the Microsoft process for converting a simple PowerPoint slide > to HTML is even worse. The TOC page that I wanted to produce > (README.html) actually contains no content in any way related to the > original document. It's sole purpose in life is to be the gatekeeper to > the true content file (which is an even more bloated and twisted variety > of HTML). That file is stored off in it's own directory, with a bunch > of other linked files that are apparently needed in MicroHsofTMeaL to > reproduce a simple table with links. > > I call this whole thing pathetic because it is exactly opposite of what > their customer needs or wants. It's pathetic because they are causing > confusion on the part of the user where there should be none at all. > It's pathetic because they don't bother to create software that gives > the user/developer greater control and flexibility, and instead go out > of their way to develop 'features' that are designed to promote their > business in a way that defeats their customer's goal. > > Why don't they create a converter that says: > Saving to HTML, choose your preferred output format: > HTML 4.01 > XHTML 1 > Preferred image format: > jpg > png > > D'ohhh. If they did that, then they would have to call it > www.OpenOffice.org > > I figured OpenOffice would do a better job at creating the HTML file. > Unfortunately, as well as OpenOffice.org handles conversion to and from > hidden Microsoft proprietary file formats, it was unable to produce an > acceptable html export, because it left out the hyperlinks altogether, > and simply created a page-sized graphic. I'll bet that Microsoft uses a > completely non-standard format to represent the hyperlinks in > PowerPoint, making them practically impenetrable for the makers of > OpenOffice.org. Or, perhaps this is an area that ooo can improve in. I > created a simple ooo impress file containing a single hyperlink, then > exported that to html, flash, and pdf. All converters failed to > preserve the hyperlink. At least the ooo software didn't scare me into > thinking that I was about to ruin my computer by doing something > unsupported. > You bring up an interesting observation about Microsoft's application products. Microsoft seems to specialize in making applications that are incompatible or difficult to mimic. One product that I found rather obnoxious is their "Picture It" product. All I needed was a tool to create picture albums that could be easily setup on a web site. The application insisted on inserting links to the Microsoft web site which were "no return". If you inadvertently clicked on one of the "Picture It" links you found your browser sitting on the Microsoft web site and clicking the back button wouldn't return you to the picture album. Really annoying and totally gratuitous. Another Microsoft application that locks you in (don't they all?) is their Publisher product. If you create web pages with it, you can forget about using any other tool to access the source. -Alex > -Greg > > 1. As specified, non-standard words shall be ignored by speakers of the > true language. > _
