Re: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-(

2004-12-13 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Sunday, Dec 12th 2004 at 21:35 -0500, quoth Fred:

=>On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 18:19, Steven W. Orr wrote:
=>...
=>> =>
=>> =>BTW, dig would reference a DNS server, not a hosts file, AFAIK.
=>> 
=>> This is interesting. I did not know this.
=>> 
=>> Epilogue:
=>> 
=>> I don't know why, but now it all works again. Obviously a sign from the 
=>> multiverse telling me I need to move to the next plane of existence.
=>
=>Just guessing, but it may have to do with the "options ndots" setting in
=>your /etc/resolv.conf file, which get overwritten frequently by your
=>dhcp client if you are running one.
=>
=>Make sure it is set thus:
=>
=>options ndots:0
=>

Wow! I never heard of that one before but it sounds like that *could* have 
done it.

Thanks. So this is the 2nd thing I've learned about this problem. The 
other is that dig or nslookup only goes through a dns server. Is there 
such a thing that tells me how the resolver decides which szource it got 
its answer from?

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SLUG meeting with topic of XML 12/13 at 7pm in UNH Morse 301

2004-12-13 Thread Robert E. Anderson
The Topic is:  XML what is it and how can it be useful

The next meeting is Monday 12/13/2004 at 7pm in Morse Hall room 301.

XML seems to be a common Web buzzword that isn't very well understood.
Tonight's meeting will describe what it is, and give an some example
uses.  We'll also look a few free XML editors and why you might want
to use them.  A few more over the major XML buzzwords will be
explained as well, for example: DTD, DOM, SAX, and XLT.

If you have some XML experience be prepared to share it!

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Re: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-(

2004-12-13 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Dec 13, 2004, at 10:16, Steven W. Orr wrote:
dig or nslookup only goes through a dns server. Is there
such a thing that tells me how the resolver decides which szource it 
got
its answer from?
This isn't exactly what you asked for but it may help - it's a script I 
wrote to help me resolve addresses for debugging.  All it does it is 
call the unix system call 'gethostbyname', but that lets you look in 
/etc/hosts, nis, netinfo, etc. whereas dig, nslookup, host are just for 
DNS as you found.  You can spend too much time on a problem only to 
find it's due to an old /etc/hosts entry you didn't notice. DAMHIKT.  
Usage: ./gethostbyname.pl hostname.

-Bill
--- start gethostbyname.pl ---
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
use warnings FATAL => 'all';
use Socket;
my $host = shift;
my ($name,$aliases,$addrtype,$length,@addrs) = gethostbyname($host);
print join ( ', ' ,
 map(
 inet_ntoa($_),
 @addrs
 )
   ) . "\n";
--- end gethostbyname.pl ---

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Re: hot spot managment

2004-12-13 Thread Travis Roy

I am working with a client of mine that owns a restaurant in Nashua he 
is looking to add a free hotpot to his restaurant but does not want
people not in the restaurant using it
   

You could try encasing the restaurant in lead..
 

This really is your only option. Even with directional antennas you're 
going to leak outside the building and people with directional antennas 
outside will probably be able to pick it up.

One way, that is not totally secure is to force the patrions to use 
restaraunt supplied wifi cards and only let the mac address from those 
cards have access.

You might want to look into signull's hotspot product. While it lets 
anybody connect, you still have to create a username and password to use 
the device so that at least allows an audit trail.
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Re: hot spot managment

2004-12-13 Thread Jared Watkins
Travis Roy wrote:

I am working with a client of mine that owns a restaurant in Nashua 
he is looking to add a free hotpot to his restaurant but does not want
people not in the restaurant using it
  

You could try encasing the restaurant in lead..
 

This really is your only option. Even with directional antennas you're 
going to leak outside the building and people with directional 
antennas outside will probably be able to pick it up.

One way, that is not totally secure is to force the patrions to use 
restaraunt supplied wifi cards and only let the mac address from those 
cards have access.

You might want to look into signull's hotspot product. While it lets 
anybody connect, you still have to create a username and password to 
use the device so that at least allows an audit trail.

I would suggest doing this with a mixture of
software/placement/settings...  I'll explain... there are captive portal
solutions out there that will require a person to log in the first time
they connect... these could be tied into a ticketing or account system
if you wanted.  Place the hotspot(s) close to the center of the area you
want to cover...  and set them to only accept connections at a such a
speed..  this will effectively limit the distance by which they can be
reached.  A laptop with wifi and something like Net Stumbler will help
you map out signal that is leaking outside the building.  For a captive
portal and other wifi stuff... check out these resources:
http://nocat.net/
http://socalfreenet.org/volunteer
http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/
If placement is a problem... check out what some innovative people have
done  http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/h/352
Lots of places like to use cordless phones... I'd check with the
neighboring businesses to see if they use 2.4G phones... if they do...
encourage them to change to 900mhz or something else... those 2.4G
phones can be really disruptive to wifi... as can microwave ovens.
Jared
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Re: SLUG meeting with topic of XML 12/13 at 7pm in UNH Morse 301

2004-12-13 Thread Ted Roche
On Dec 13, 2004, at 11:38 AM, Robert E. Anderson wrote:
The Topic is:  XML what is it and how can it be useful
The next meeting is Monday 12/13/2004 at 7pm in Morse Hall room 301.
Oh, bummer! I would have enjoyed the meeting, but it's a little late 
now. Guess I should start reserving the second Mondays.

I use XML every day, and do most computer users whether they realize it 
or not.

I'd be interested in hearing from attendees what interesting 
applications were discussed and what editors were recommended.

Ted Roche
Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com
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Re: hot spot managment

2004-12-13 Thread Kevin D. Clark

"Steven C. Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am working with a client of mine that owns a restaurant in Nashua he
> is looking to add a free hotpot to his restaurant but does not want
> people not in the restaurant using it

Your client's problem reminds me of this:

 http://www.ashidakim.com/zenkoans/49black-nosedbuddha.html


I hope this helps.

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hot spot managment

2004-12-13 Thread Steven C. Peterson
I am working with a client of mine that owns a restaurant in Nashua he 
is looking to add a free hotpot to his restaurant but does not want
people not in the restaurant using it

My thinking would be to have some sort of authentication code that 
changes every so often but am not sure how to do this and if i can with 
low cost hardware ( ie
not getting a commercial AP.

the only other way i can think of restricting access within the 
restaurant is to use directional antennas.

Any help would be greatly appreciated
Steven



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Re: hot spot managment

2004-12-13 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 08:14:27PM -0500, Steven C. Peterson wrote:
> I am working with a client of mine that owns a restaurant in Nashua he 
> is looking to add a free hotpot to his restaurant but does not want
> people not in the restaurant using it

You could try encasing the restaurant in lead...

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Re: I have a network problem with my hosts file :-(

2004-12-13 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 10:16:05AM -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote:
> Is there such a thing that tells me how the resolver decides which
> szource it got its answer from?

Yes, the resolver man page does that.  Try this:

  $ man 5 resolver

If you mean to ask if there is a way to determine from what source the
resolver received a particular answer, I no of know way to make it
report that information, though you probably will  be able to reveal
it by watching the process in question with the strace/ltrace
command(s).

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