Re: Pieces parts.

2005-03-26 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Friday 25 March 2005 01:06 pm, Bill McGonigle wrote:
 On Mar 25, 2005, at 07:54, Tom Wittbrodt wrote:
  I'll second (3rd and 4th, for that matter) newegg.

 I get a bunch of stuff from them too, and their prices are great, but
 it's worth noting it's not the place to buy from if you want anything
 resembling advice, tech support, or you're not sure what a Socket 478
 is and need help picking a CPU that will work with a motherboard
 possessing one.

For that, I usually do a lot of shopping at MWave.com.  I used to buy from 
them a lot, but they got bought by someone new a few years back and their 
service tanked.  Anyway, their motherboard bundle stuff lets you select a 
board, pick the processor and type of memory for it, etc.  Then, you can 
transfer model numbers, types, etc to another site for purchasing.
-N
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Question about wireless support

2005-03-26 Thread Numberwhun
Hello!  I am just curious if anyone here has had any experience with 
using wireless cards with Linux?  I have one of the Linksys pci cards 
that holds one of the pcmcia wireless (802.11b) cards and was wanting to 
use it with Fedora Core 3.

If anyone has any experince with this combination ( or another 
distribution) please respond.  Thanks!

Regards,
Jeff Kirkland
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Re: Question about wireless support

2005-03-26 Thread Fred
On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 12:29 -0500, Numberwhun wrote:
 Hello!  I am just curious if anyone here has had any experience with 
 using wireless cards with Linux?  I have one of the Linksys pci cards 
 that holds one of the pcmcia wireless (802.11b) cards and was wanting to 
 use it with Fedora Core 3.

I use a Belkin PCMCIA card with Linux. This may or may not help you with
your Linksys PCI, but I had to:

1) Reconfigure the kernel to support Wireless.
2) Compile and install the driver for the card.
3) Set up the various configuration files in the /etc/sysconfig, etc.

The details are likely to be different for your card, but you'll
probably have to go through the above steps, unless support for the card
is native to your distro.

Hopefully there is someone else here who has experience with your
specific card.

A real sensitive issue is the driver/kernel mix. Drivers are not always
kept up to date with the latest kernel releases, so if you are like me
who has to have the latest and greatest of everything, you are likely to
be disappointed. 

In short, getting wireless cards to work can be highly nontrivial,
depending on the card. Googling will be your close friend under these
circumstances.

-Fred


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Re: Question about wireless support

2005-03-26 Thread Ben Boulanger
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005, Numberwhun wrote:
 Hello!  I am just curious if anyone here has had any experience with 
 using wireless cards with Linux?  I have one of the Linksys pci cards 
 that holds one of the pcmcia wireless (802.11b) cards and was wanting to 
 use it with Fedora Core 3.

I've had a lot of luck with the ndiswrapper, they show all of the 
different successes on the site, I believe:
http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net

While not native, it's allowed me to use the built in stuff on my laptop 
with great success.

Ben


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Debian help, please

2005-03-26 Thread Bill Freeman
I thought that I'd try the LUG before I go more global.

I've been a RedHat/Fedora guy for a long time.

I have a couple of new (to me) machines to install on, so I'm
trying some other distributions.  (Gentoo on one of them.  Man, does
kde take a long time to compile!  Don't set up to build -j2 if you've
only got 64Mb.  When two compiles have a RSS together greater than
available RAM, and that often happens doing a stage 1 gentoo, you drop
to a few percent of your machine's performance.)

One is a Compaq Presario 1200Z.  I sucessfully shrank the NTFS
partition with XP on it (not permanently my laptop) and burned myself
a net install CD, and installed woody.  (I figured that stable would
be wiser until I'm wiser.)  All well and good.  I even got it to
install the tulip driver on boot, though I'm still running dhclient -e
eth0 by hand.

But, no sound.  Some fooling around later I realized that its,
at least in part, because I wound up with kernel 2.2.20-idepci
(probably because that was what was on the netinstall CD?), and the
idepci versions have no sound support.

So I did an install of 2.2.20, the full version.  Yeah, 2.4 is
in the apt accessible stuff, but I figured I'd take baby steps.  And
it boots, all well and good.  But 1. still no sound, even when I
modprobe via82cxxx_audio (which is what works for knoppix); and 2.
the tulip driver will no longer load (something about device busy,
I'll get the real message if desired, but that's a ways back, see
below).  Yes, the error message implies that it's attempting to load
tulip.o from the correct subdirectory tree of /lib/modules.

OK, so maybe the 2.2 stuff isn't being kept up and tested as
well as one might hope, it being a few versions back and all, So I
tried 2.4.18-k7, which hangs initializing USB stuff.  There's a
sticker on the laptop that says Duron, but uname reports i686.  Yes I
got the initrd stuff straight.

So next I take two steps back and try 2.4.16-i386.  This boots
fine, will happily modprobe via82cxxx_audio, and kde's sound server no
longer complains (though I haven't heard any sound yet).


But, tulip still won't load (no such device this time from
tulip.o's init_module).

Any insights?

Bill
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Re: Debian help, please

2005-03-26 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Saturday 26 March 2005 05:46 pm, Bill Freeman wrote:
 a net install CD, and installed woody.  (I figured that stable would
 be wiser until I'm wiser.)  All well and good.  I even got it to
I might suggest trying Testing until you're wiser.  It's notoriously hard to 
start with Debian Woody (and far harder to start with Potato or something, 
too).  The new installer is the first that's really a smooth installation 
start to finish.  That said...

 it boots, all well and good.  But 1. still no sound, even when I
 modprobe via82cxxx_audio (which is what works for knoppix); and 2.
The via_82cxxx chips are a pain in the ass at times.  While it's possible this 
is a Debian problem, I've had systems where I just gave up trying.  Lots of 
via_82cxxx systems I've setup, I've used the ALSA drivers with more luck than 
the OSS ones.  YMMV.  One consistent thing I've noted with lots of via sound 
chipsets is that Master doesn't do anything in the mixer.  Lots of times it's 
the headphone or surround or some other slider that actually makes sound come 
up.  Make sure to play with the mixer a bunch before discounting that the 
driver is working or not.  That said, the drivers can often yield rather 
sub-par sound quality too (but it may be fine).


 the tulip driver will no longer load (something about device busy,
 I'll get the real message if desired, but that's a ways back, see
As for the tulip driver, that's odd.  That usually is one of those drivers 
that just works - so long as it matches your kernel version, I can't 
imagine why it wouldn't.  I haven't used tulip cards in awhile, though, so I 
can't say I've done any troubleshooting with them really.  Anyway, this seems 
more a kernel version issue to me - very odd.

Hope some of that helps somewhat (at least for sound).
-N
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