RE: One more bites the dust
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Buskey > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > Subject: Re: One more bites the dust > > > The Blackberry offers wireless syncing to an > Blackberry/MS-Exchange server that syncs email, calendar and > contacts securely. And it's a phone. With SnapperMail you can sync your emails with an Exchange server. With Snapper or Chatter on Polm, and IMAP instead of POP3 you can sync email *AND* eliminate any need for Exchange (for the email part...). ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: One more bites the dust
Walter Mossberg pans it in the Wall Street Journal, too: http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20060105.html "My verdict: Despite some nice new features, the Windows Mobile software is still inferior to the Palm software for one-handed use on the go. Its crucial email and phone functions are also weaker. And there's a serious bug in its email software that affects individuals, though not corporate users. So the Treo 700w is neither as easy to use nor as powerful as the Treo 650. In addition, the screen on the 700w offers significantly lower resolution than the screen on the 650, and the new model costs twice as much -- $400 versus $200." Looks like they should have named it the Treo 325. Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com On Jan 5, 2006, at 2:35 PM, Tom Buskey wrote: David Pogue had a review of it in the NYT http://www.nytimes.com/ 2006/01/05/technology/circuits/05pogue.html sorry, passwd required ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: One more bites the dust
Blackberry on PalmOS Treo 650. http://www.blackberry.com/news/press/2004/pr-18_05_2004-02.shtml http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003May/bpd20030507019890.htm http://www.palm.com/us/enterprise/products/blackberry_connect.html -N On Thursday 05 January 2006 04:42 pm, Tom Buskey wrote: > There's blackberry software for PalmOS or PocketPC? > > The Blackberry offers wireless syncing to an Blackberry/MS-Exchange server > that syncs email, calendar and contacts securely. And it's a phone. > > For a road warrior, you can do much of your outlook stuff from your > blackberry. It's very good. > > For me as a sysadmin, it buzzes my hip incessently with most of my email > after I read it on the screen :-) Oh, and it buzzes on my dresser as it's > charging. > > On 1/5/06, Neil Joseph Schelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 05 January 2006 02:35 pm, Tom Buskey wrote: > > > - wishing for a PalmOS based blackberry (my company requires BB..) > > > > Why not get yourself a Treo then and install the Blackberry software on > > it? > > -N > > ___ > > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss > > -- > A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad > measures. > - Daniel Webster ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: One more bites the dust
There's blackberry software for PalmOS or PocketPC?The Blackberry offers wireless syncing to an Blackberry/MS-Exchange server that syncs email, calendar and contacts securely. And it's a phone.For a road warrior, you can do much of your outlook stuff from your blackberry. It's very good. For me as a sysadmin, it buzzes my hip incessently with most of my email after I read it on the screen :-) Oh, and it buzzes on my dresser as it's charging.On 1/5/06, Neil Joseph Schelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday 05 January 2006 02:35 pm, Tom Buskey wrote:> - wishing for a PalmOS based blackberry (my company requires BB..)Why not get yourself a Treo then and install the Blackberry software on it?-N ___gnhlug-discuss mailing listgnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss-- A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. - Daniel Webster
Re: One more bites the dust
On Thursday 05 January 2006 02:35 pm, Tom Buskey wrote: > - wishing for a PalmOS based blackberry (my company requires BB..) Why not get yourself a Treo then and install the Blackberry software on it? -N ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: One more bites the dust
Y'all can imagine how I feel after having purchased a Garmin iQUE3600 GPS/PDA that has Palm software on it, and NOT be able to install the mapping software because I *have* to have MS Windows (XP|2000|etc) running on my desktop in order to poke the mapping bits into the iQUE. I can *read* my PDA's data (address book, memo, etc.) with kpilot, but I can't *write* to the PDA that way. I can't install the MapSource stuff under WINE because it chokes on the InstallShield . I can't install Win98SE on a spare drive because I have an esoteric SCSI controller (Adaptec 78xx-based) that the Win98SE installer doesn't know about (although I admit I haven't searched the Web for a driver floppy image). I even ran over to CompUSA and bought an el-cheapo desktop USB DVD r/w drive (with a card reader). I can actually mount the DVD and see the bits, but can't do anything with them. And, no, just copying them to the iQUE'! s 1GB SD card doesn't work - evidently there's some sort of secret fondling that the Palm Desktop has to do over the USB to the iQUE to write-enable it. An exchange of e-mail with Garmin gleaned confirmation that they don't support anything but Windews. Ironically, Garmin uses Apache to run the web site that dispenses new bits to customers and another Open Source/GNU application (forget off the top of my head) to sign up for their mailing list. C'est la vie... Happy New Year from sunny Florida, Bayard Coolidge, N1HO "Brake for Moose - it can save your life" - NHF&GDJon maddog Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When I go to the page http://web.palm.com/products/smartphones/treo700w/details.jhtmlI saw the agonizing Microsoft logo. Apparently Palm has decided to put their"ease of use" on top! of the Windows Mobile platform. It means that everytime I would go to use my phone I would have to be reminded of a monopoly gonebad. Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: One more bites the dust
David Pogue had a review of it in the NYT http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/05/technology/circuits/05pogue.html sorry, passwd required Basically Palm did this so they could sell to everyone that requires MS because they were tired of losing that market. The ease of use is severly hampered.Unless the WinCE device severly outsells the PalmOS one, I think we'll see future PalmOS devices. Maybe companies that require WinCE will be willing to look at the other Palms once they have a few 700ws in house. - wishing for a PalmOS based blackberry (my company requires BB..)On 1/5/06, Jon maddog Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:I saw the announcement of the new Palm Treo 700w today, and thought I might take a look at it. My old phone is getting a bit long in the tooth, so Ithought I might go for a new Treo.When I go to the page http://web.palm.com/products/smartphones/treo700w/details.jhtml I saw the agonizing Microsoft logo. Apparently Palm has decided to put their"ease of use" on top of the Windows Mobile platform. It means that everytime I would go to use my phone I would have to be reminded of a monopoly gone bad.It is a shame that one of the last bastions of closed source good softwarefelt they had to partner with someone who is basically their biggestcompetitor.I may never be able to purchase another Palm again. Sadly,maddog--Jon "maddog" HallExecutive Director Linux International(R)email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St.Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A.WWW: http://www.li.orgBoard Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association(R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA used pursuant to a license from Linux Mark Institute, authorized licensor of Linus Torvalds, owner of the Linux trademark on a worldwide basis (R)UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries.___gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.orghttp://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss-- A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. - Daniel Webster
RE: One more bites the dust
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Neil Schelly > They've said they intend to continue both the PalmOS and > Windows handhelds and I can tell you my 650 is great! I don't > think there's actually anything better about the 700w over > the 650 except probably slightly faster hardware to deal with > the OS bloat. > -N Me too. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: One more bites the dust
Jon maddog Hall wrote: I saw the announcement of the new Palm Treo 700w today, and thought I might take a look at it. My old phone is getting a bit long in the tooth, so I thought I might go for a new Treo. When I go to the page http://web.palm.com/products/smartphones/treo700w/details.jhtml I saw the agonizing Microsoft logo. Apparently Palm has decided to put their "ease of use" on top of the Windows Mobile platform. It means that every time I would go to use my phone I would have to be reminded of a monopoly gone bad. It is a shame that one of the last bastions of closed source good software felt they had to partner with someone who is basically their biggest competitor. I may never be able to purchase another Palm again. Sadly, maddog Palm has also announced that they have plans to release products that use a Linux-based O/S. That might sit with you better. Now all they have to do is actually release it Dan ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: One more bites the dust
On Thursday 05 January 2006 01:15 pm, Jon maddog Hall wrote: > I saw the announcement of the new Palm Treo 700w today, and thought I might > take a look at it. My old phone is getting a bit long in the tooth, so I > thought I might go for a new Treo. They've said they intend to continue both the PalmOS and Windows handhelds and I can tell you my 650 is great! I don't think there's actually anything better about the 700w over the 650 except probably slightly faster hardware to deal with the OS bloat. -N ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: One more bites the dust
I heard there will also be a treo700p that runs on palmOS http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/20/analyst-sez-treo-700p-on-sprint-early-next-year/ http://gadgetsonthego.net/2005/09/there-will-be-treo-700p_112776337725284205.html Jon maddog Hall wrote: I saw the announcement of the new Palm Treo 700w today, and thought I might take a look at it. My old phone is getting a bit long in the tooth, so I thought I might go for a new Treo. When I go to the page http://web.palm.com/products/smartphones/treo700w/details.jhtml I saw the agonizing Microsoft logo. Apparently Palm has decided to put their "ease of use" on top of the Windows Mobile platform. It means that every time I would go to use my phone I would have to be reminded of a monopoly gone bad. It is a shame that one of the last bastions of closed source good software felt they had to partner with someone who is basically their biggest competitor. I may never be able to purchase another Palm again. Sadly, maddog ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
One more bites the dust
I saw the announcement of the new Palm Treo 700w today, and thought I might take a look at it. My old phone is getting a bit long in the tooth, so I thought I might go for a new Treo. When I go to the page http://web.palm.com/products/smartphones/treo700w/details.jhtml I saw the agonizing Microsoft logo. Apparently Palm has decided to put their "ease of use" on top of the Windows Mobile platform. It means that every time I would go to use my phone I would have to be reminded of a monopoly gone bad. It is a shame that one of the last bastions of closed source good software felt they had to partner with someone who is basically their biggest competitor. I may never be able to purchase another Palm again. Sadly, maddog -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA used pursuant to a license from Linux Mark Institute, authorized licensor of Linus Torvalds, owner of the Linux trademark on a worldwide basis (R)UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Okay, I'm kinda annoyed^H^H^H^H^H^H^H dumb.
Sarunas wrote: > Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > [...] > >Now it boots into Gnome. > > Quite likely you are running kdm. Then choose KDE as you session type, > when logging in. Set it as default, when prompted. Even if it switched > to gdm, options are essentially the same. Right you were -- didn't even occur to me to check the kdm options. Thanks! -Ken ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Okay, I'm kinda annoyed.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > I loaded up Kubuntu on a notebook -- wanted to see how it differed from > Ubuntu. However, I wanted to be sure that I had the Gnome utils I know > and love, so I loaded a bunch of them up, too. > > Now it boots into Gnome. > Quite likely you are running kdm. Then choose KDE as you session type, when logging in. Set it as default, when prompted. Even if it switched to gdm, options are essentially the same. Since it "boots into Gnome", I understand you don't do `startx`. If nevertheless you do, edit or create ~/.xsession file and add 'startkde' line there. HTH, Sarunas Burdulis Sysadmin Math, Dartmouth College -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDvS2EVVkpJ1MUn+YRAoXcAJ0cfmYJ21dcu71gYg+NlDtcWZBuFgCeJ0Iq KePwbSbn45IXJxX5ATlyV4g= =kbZL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Okay, I'm kinda annoyed.
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 09:15:56AM -0500, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > I loaded up Kubuntu on a notebook -- wanted to see how it differed from > Ubuntu. However, I wanted to be sure that I had the Gnome utils I know > and love, so I loaded a bunch of them up, too. > > Now it boots into Gnome. > > How do I change it back? It's been a long time since I've played with > KDE, and I have no idea what its WM, etc., are called these days... and > I've -never- used it under Debian, so I have no clue what link(s?) need > to be changed (presumably in /etc/alternatives?). look for the switchdesk command. If thats not there look for the "session" label/button on the Gnome login screen. If thats not there, su to root, go into /etc/X!! and poke around, I think Xinit may be the script that start up the DM. > > Thanks, > > -Ken > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss > -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. speech recognition software may have been used to create this e-mail "The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding." - Brandeis To think contrary to one's era is heroism. But to speak against it is madness. -- Eugene Ionesco ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Okay, I'm kinda annoyed.
I loaded up Kubuntu on a notebook -- wanted to see how it differed from Ubuntu. However, I wanted to be sure that I had the Gnome utils I know and love, so I loaded a bunch of them up, too. Now it boots into Gnome. How do I change it back? It's been a long time since I've played with KDE, and I have no idea what its WM, etc., are called these days... and I've -never- used it under Debian, so I have no clue what link(s?) need to be changed (presumably in /etc/alternatives?). Thanks, -Ken ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
