SIP phone suggestions
Hey all - I'm finally foraying into the world of Asterisk. I have a box to dedicate to it, I have Trixbox (http://www.trixbox.org/) downloaded and ready to install ... now I just need some phones. I was wondering if folks could suggest (or at least relay experiences) on phones? I'm looking for one fairly nice office phone. Something multi-line capable (which I still don't really get - shouldn't that be inherent?) with a decent speaker phone. Then I'm also looking for a couple of wireless ones (I already have a WAP). Any advice, etc is gratefully accepted. Thanks in advance. -- Cole Tuininga [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.code-energy.com/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: SIP phone suggestions
-- Original message -- From: Cole Tuininga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey all - I'm finally foraying into the world of Asterisk. I have a box to dedicate to it, I have Trixbox (http://www.trixbox.org/) downloaded and ready to install ... now I just need some phones. I was wondering if folks could suggest (or at least relay experiences) on phones? I'm looking for one fairly nice office phone. Something multi-line capable (which I still don't really get - shouldn't that be inherent?) with a decent speaker phone. I have been using the Sipura SPA-941's. Sipura was bought by Linksys, which is owned by Cisco. They look almost identical to all of the Cisco phones that you see on TV (usually the Cisco 7960). You can get them in two-line or four-line, and they only cost about $130 a piece. The SPA-942 is also good, and it has the added benefit of havin a built-in switch. Mass-configuration is pretty easy using a simple config script on a tftp server. I have used the Cisco phones in the past, and they aren't worth the money. They are good phones, but at anywhere from $300 (for a refurb) to $800, they are way to expensive for mass deployment in a small company. FYI, Kenny ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: SIP phone suggestions
On 11/7/06, Cole Tuininga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all - I'm finally foraying into the world of Asterisk.I have a boxto dedicate to it, I have Trixbox (http://www.trixbox.org/) downloadedand ready to install ... now I just need some phones. I was wondering if folks could suggest (or at least relay experiences)on phones?Then I'm also looking for a couple of wireless ones (I already have aWAP). The only warning I can give for 802.11 wireless SIP phones is, prepare for 802.11b. Last I checked, which was several months ago, most where 802.11b, with only one or two models supporting 802.11g, which where expensive, (500+ $$ range). I'll see if I can find my old information, and the phones I ended up using. Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: SIP phone suggestions
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Re: SIP phone suggestions
Thomas Charron wrote: I'll see if I can find my old information, and the phones I ended up using. Thomas ZyXEL was the brand of the wireless phones I ended up integrating. I previewed a few others, I need to check what the namebrand was. I THINK there where some that actually ran Linux IIRC. I've been using Broadvoice.com for a little over a year now. I started out with a Pulver WiSIP phone. It ran Linux and worked splendidly. I loved it. Then the speaker broke. It was under warranty, so I sent it in for replacement. SOB's sent me a rebranded POS that sounds like crap, keeps disconnecting, and is much less comfortable to use. There are pictures of the POS at http://www.broadvoice.com/support_install_wifi_voip-bv.html So why am I still using Broadvoice? SIP standards. Their service works (quite well) with GPhone, LinPhone, etc. with little configuration (you have to contact them for your sip password - the rest of the settings are on their web site). I also have an old standard Grandstream Budgetone. Now that's a really nice phone for the price. It doesn't do a whole hell of a lot, but what it does do it's rock solid with. Now if I could only find the power adapter to use it again... (odd voltage/amperage)... Brian ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: SIP phone suggestions
On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 10:20 -0500, Michael ODonnell wrote: Please Please try try not not to to have have gnhlug-discuss gnhlug-discuss on on both both the the To: To: and and Cc: Cc: lines lines in in your your headers headers since since that that results results in in duplicate duplicate messages messages to to the the list list. Thanks! Thanks! That was my fault - my original message had the reply-to set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (without mail.). I think that confused a lot of address books. Mea culpa. -- Cole Tuininga [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.code-energy.com/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: SIP phone suggestions
On 11/7/06, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... results results in in duplicate duplicate messages messages to to the the list list. Thanks! Thanks! I I love love double double Chex Chex. You'd think the list software would catch duplicate Message ID's and remove them. I'll have to speak to the list admin 'bout that... -- Ben Oh wait, that's me Scott ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings
I've got a client who would like to image his half-dozen workstations and store the images off-site as part of a disaster recovery plan. We're planning on using Knoppix and partimage to snapshot the machines, The workstations are run-of-the-mill Dell Dimensions, fairly new, so USB 2.0 should be acceptable. Guesstimating ~ 5 - 10 Gb per workstation, so most medium capacity HDDs should be sufficient. Two separate HDDs for odd- and even-month backups could be used for redundancy and avoiding single-point-of- failure. (There is already a separate backup system in place for day- to-day operational data and documents). I see the local big boxes have regular promotions for Western Digitals, Seagates, Maxtors and SimpleTechs. Any recommendations pro- or con- or are these pretty much commodity items? Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings
On 11/7/06, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see the local big boxes have regular promotions for Western Digitals, Seagates, Maxtors and SimpleTechs. Any recommendations pro- or con- or are these pretty much commodity items? From what I've seen, they're pretty much commodity items. They're universally the same on the inside: A standard 3.5-inch, 1/3-height HDD like you'd find in any desktop PC, plus a PCB with a USB-to-IDE bridge chip and some power electronics. Some do use 2.5-inch laptop-style drives. I've heard at least one person say those are more likely to wear out sooner, and they're almost always more expensive, so you're probably best avoiding those. There is some differentiation in value added Windoze backup software and such included with some drives, but for your purposes that's moot. I'd go with whatever's cheapest (but don't forget to factor warranty, etc., into the cost/benefit ratio). -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
*pout* HDTV No Recordee....
Getting DirecTV setup, and I don't know why I never noticed, but.. There's no way to record HD from a satalite provider. *le pout* Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....
I MEANT in a way I could get to it from Linux. ;-) I KNOW DirecTV offers HD PVR.On 11/7/06, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Getting DirecTV setup, and I don't know why I never noticed, but.. There's no way to record HD from a satalite provider. *le pout* Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....
There is, you just have to use DirecTV's DVR. The Tivo HD-DVR can do it, and the new upcoming DirecTV HDDVR will be able to do the HD Locals. Getting DirecTV setup, and I don't know why I never noticed, but.. There's no way to record HD from a satalite provider. *le pout* Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings
Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see the local big boxes have regular promotions for Western Digitals, Seagates, Maxtors and SimpleTechs. Any recommendations pro- or con- or are these pretty much commodity items? How often are you planning on transporting these drives around? Keep in mind, drives are very susceptiple to vibration damage. The more they are transported around, and powered on and off, the more likely they are to fail early. You might be better writing the images to DVD or tape and sending those off site. Another option is to completely forget about keeping an image around and setting up something like FAI, Kickstart, Ghost, System Imager, etc. These systems can all be configured to re-install the correct image on to a specified architecture. Some are more dynamic than others like Kickstart and FAI, whereas others, like Ghost and SI work on the golden image principle. The down-side of the golden image is that it's rather inflexible. It's not unreasonable to expect a video card or hard drive to migrate around to several different machines as older ones die out and newer systems come in as replacements, or components get upgraded piecemeal. So, if a newer video card gets installed in an older system, the golden image may no longer work. Whereas something like FAI or Kickstart can dynamically determine the video card at install time and install the correct drivers for it. I inherently dislike the idea of storing images. It implies that your configuration isn't going to change, and change is something inherent to computers, they are not static :) Just my .2 drachmas. -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....
Isn't that true with even non-HD DirecTV programming?I've never found a way to do it, not that I've looked that hard. But I know the stream is encrypted. I MEANT in a way I could get to it from Linux. ;-) I KNOW DirecTV offers HD PVR.On 11/7/06, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Getting DirecTV setup, and I don't know why I never noticed, but.. There's no way to record HD from a satalite provider. *le pout* Thomas ___gnhlug-discuss mailing listgnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.orghttp://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....
The Linux HDTV card won't do it? (Encryption, I assume?) --DTVZ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings
The workstations are run-of-the-mill Dell Dimensions, fairly new, so USB 2.0 should be acceptable. I haven't done much with USB storage devices so all I have to go on is my current situation, which isn't much fun. I've just started wrestling with some Dell boxes running RHEL3 (based on 2.4.21-ish kernels and patched to smithereens by RHAT and, no - upgrading isn't an option for us at the moment) that just randomly lock up when accessing their USB-connected backup drives. Looking through the comments in the source codes for the USB drivers I gather that USB is a wild world where many of the OEMs and interface-chip mfrs (ignoring nuisances such as standards and specs) have thrown off the shackles of hidebound convention and bravely struck off on their own, embracing and extending at will and giving their creativity free rein. In other words, it's a fscking miracle that things work as well as they do. Again, I'm not claiming to have authoritative knowledge here, just intrepretting what I see in the driver sources, although the fact that we seem to wedge up faster with some drives than with others (all purchased very recently) seems to corroborate the impression that things haven't yet converged... I see the local big boxes have regular promotions for Western Digitals, Seagates, Maxtors and SimpleTechs. Any recommendations pro- or con- or are these pretty much commodity items? I gather that recent kernels are much more robust that what I'm saddled with but, before you commit to anything, I'd recommend that you obtain one or more examples of the candidate drives and beat the daylights out of them for an extended period with the machines and software you intend to deploy. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....
On 11/7/06, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Tivo HD-DVR can do it ... The Series 3 TiVo cannot record satellite. It has NTSC, ATSC (HD OTA), and digital cable tuners, but no component inputs or anything like that for attachment to an external satellite tuner box. I'm still trying to make up my mind between upgrading my Series 2 Lifetime box to Series 3 Lifetime, or selling it and building a MythTV box. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings
On November 07, 2006, Ted Roche sent me the following: I see the local big boxes have regular promotions for Western Digitals, Seagates, Maxtors and SimpleTechs. Any recommendations pro- or con- or are these pretty much commodity items? I've been poking around a little lately looking for an external drive to back my laptop up onto. You might be better off purchasing an external enclosure and a retail or OEM drive rather than one of the pre-packaged external drives. Not only does this tend to be slightly cheaper, but it seems that a lot of the big names provide much better warranties on internal drives than external drives. For instance, Western Digital will give you a 5-year warranty on an OEM internal drive, but only a 1-year on their MyBook external drives. Personally, I've got my eye on a macally PHR-100SU enclosure[1], it takes a 3.5 SATA drive and provides USB and SATA connections (not eSATA though.) They make a number of enclosures with various connections, and seem to get pretty good reviews. [1] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817347003 -- Chip Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kyzoku.2bithacker.net/ GCM/IT d+(-) s+:++ a25? C++ UB$ P+++$ L- E--- W++ N@ o K- w O M+ V-- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t+@ R@ tv@ b++@ DI D+(-) G++ e++ h++ r-- y? signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....
I don't think Lifetime subscriptions are available anymore. I was considering upgrading my Series 1 (v.1 Phillips) box to Series 3, but without Lifetime decided it wouldn't be worth it. Pierre On 11/7/06, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/7/06, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Tivo HD-DVR can do it ... The Series 3 TiVo cannot record satellite.It has NTSC, ATSC (HDOTA), and digital cable tuners, but no component inputs or anythinglike that for attachment to an external satellite tuner box.I'm still trying to make up my mind between upgrading my Series 2 Lifetime box to Series 3 Lifetime, or selling it and building a MythTVbox.-- Ben___gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.orghttp://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....
On 11/7/06, Peter Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think Lifetime subscriptions are available anymore. I was considering upgrading my Series 1 (v.1 Phillips) box to Series 3, but without Lifetime decided it wouldn't be worth it. You cannot purchase new Lifetime Service from TiVo anymore. However, ff you have a TiVo DVR that already has Lifetime Service, TiVo Inc is offering a deal where you can transfer that to a new Series 3 box for $200. So you could do that. The deal is only good until the end of this year, though. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings
On 11/7/06, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking through the comments in the source codes for the USB drivers I gather that ... it's a fscking miracle that things work as well as they do. Yah, I've heard the same. Standards compliance is, apparently, considered optional. I recall coming across a driver in the Linux kernel that was designed specifically to help in these situations. It was kind of like the regular USB mass storage driver, but tried to be conservative in what it sent, checked everything it got six different ways, and generally worked around a lot of drain bamage. I think it was in the 2.4 series. That might be worth exploring. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....
Yes, we're on the waiting list for them. Which annoys me, because apperently, DirecTech, the contractor in the area for DirecTV, has *6 PALLETS* of them sitting in nashua. But they cannot give them out without DirecTV saying that they have them officially. The installer just tried to do me a favor and put one in off of his truck, but they said no way in hell. *pout* ThomasOn 11/7/06, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is, you just have to use DirecTV's DVR.The Tivo HD-DVR can do it, and the new upcoming DirecTV HDDVR will beable to do the HD Locals. Getting DirecTV setup, and I don't know why I never noticed, but.. There's no way to record HD from a satalite provider.*le pout* Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....
I'm actually having them install 2 extra non HD receivers for MythTV. :-) Specifically, we want them so we can wander around the house streaming TV. ;-P ThomasOn 11/7/06, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/7/06, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Tivo HD-DVR can do it ...The Series 3 TiVo cannot record satellite.It has NTSC, ATSC (HDOTA), and digital cable tuners, but no component inputs or anything like that for attachment to an external satellite tuner box.I'm still trying to make up my mind between upgrading my Series 2Lifetime box to Series 3 Lifetime, or selling it and building a MythTVbox. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....
*Nod* The Linux HDTV card can only record terrestial HD signals. HD encrypts the signal end to end, all the way to the TV when it's encrypted. ThomasOn 11/7/06, Drew Van Zandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Linux HDTV card won't do it?(Encryption, I assume?)--DTVZ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
SATA Cables Needed
Not directly linux related, but, for a linux box. We need some SATA cables that are a bit longer than the usual 18/19 that are typical. Can't seem to find any locally, only by placing an order online etc.which I need to avoid. Without going into the stupid reasons why, does anyone know of a shop/store that can provide such locally? I'm in Westford MA now. -Andrew Gaunt ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Transportable HDD recommendations or warnings
On 11/7/06, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a client who would like to image his half-dozen workstations and store the images off-site as part of a disaster recovery plan. We're planning on using Knoppix and partimage to snapshot the machines, I see the local big boxes have regular promotions for Western Digitals, Seagates, Maxtors and SimpleTechs. Any recommendations pro- or con- or are these pretty much commodity items? I've had luck with a generic carrier. I have one for laptop disk, CD/DVD and desktop disk. The last 2 are same brand. All 3 were cheap. They have pretty much just worked, just like a thumb drive or card reader. The issue was how they showed up on Fedora 4/5 or Ubuntu 5.10?/6.06. (/dev/sd? /media/??) You're either going to want to off site the whole thing or just the disk. You can put the disk back in its shipping container but you'll want a USB carrier that's easy to take apart/put together. Get 2 so you have a spare, they're cheap. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: SATA Cables Needed
On 11/7/06, Andrew W. Gaunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not directly linux related, but, for a linux box. We need some SATA cables that are a bit longer than the usual 18/19 that are typical. Can't seem to find any locally, only by placing an order online etc.which I need to avoid. Without going into the stupid reasons why, does anyone know of a shop/store that can provide such locally? I'm in Westford MA now. I don't know of local places, but I got 42 ones from Newegg for $3 each IIRC. That's at least a day wait though. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: SATA Cables Needed
I just called Apex Computer in Nashua, and the sales guy said he did have cables that were around 2 feet. Not sure if I trust his estimate of about 2 feet, but you could call and have him measure: http://www.apexnh.com/contact.asp Andy On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 13:21 -0500, Andrew W. Gaunt wrote: Not directly linux related, but, for a linux box. We need some SATA cables that are a bit longer than the usual 18/19 that are typical. Can't seem to find any locally, only by placing an order online etc.which I need to avoid. Without going into the stupid reasons why, does anyone know of a shop/store that can provide such locally? I'm in Westford MA now. -Andrew Gaunt ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: SATA Cables Needed
You might want to check out RadioShack on 110 in the MarketBasket plaza in Westford. About a month ago I got some 24 right-angle SATA cables there. FYI, Kenny -- Original message -- From: Andrew W. Gaunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not directly linux related, but, for a linux box. We need some SATA cables that are a bit longer than the usual 18/19 that are typical. Can't seem to find any locally, only by placing an order online etc.which I need to avoid. Without going into the stupid reasons why, does anyone know of a shop/store that can provide such locally? I'm in Westford MA now. -Andrew Gaunt ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Remote desktop (VNC) question
Hi all,I'm hoping someone can help me with a bit of an annoying problem I've had with KRFB, KRDC, and VNC. I have a PC at home running Debian and KDE. This system has two monitors and a separate desktop for each monitor (not xinerama). I have no problem connecting to and viewing the desktop on the primary monitor but I can't get connected to the second desktop. I'm not even sure what the correct notation for connecting to the second desktop would be. I can use either ultraVNC on windows or KRDC from linux to connect to the machine. Again, hoping for some help. Thanks, Justin ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)
On 11/7/06, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm actually having them install 2 extra non HD receivers for MythTV. :-) It's a tough decision for me (TiVo Series 3 vs MythTV). I'm not that interested in high def TV right now. Most of the programs I watch are not in HD anyway, or don't benefit much from it (e.g., The Simpsons). I'm even less interested in paying extra for HD TV. Basic cable suits my needs. :) At the same time, though, my Series 2 box is starting to show signs of old age. I suspect at least one of the hard drives is going bad -- perhaps both, since they are identical models purchased and installed at the same time. But even if I get away with just one drive replacement, I'd still like dual tuners, still more capacity, better performance, more features, etc. The S3 would give me that, and TiVo has always been a joy to use. Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it works in day-to-day usage? I'm not as concerned with how hard it is to set-up -- I'm confident I can figure that out. What I want to avoid is something that's a pain to *use*, or that I have to tinker with to keep it working, or that fails to record programs properly, etc. If I'm watching TV, it means I want to take my brain off-hook for awhile. :-) So I want it to behave like a good appliance -- something that, once installed, stays working for long periods of time. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)
On 11/7/06, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/7/06, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm actually having them install 2 extra non HD receivers for MythTV.:-) It's a tough decision for me (TiVo Series 3 vs MythTV).I'm not that interested in high def TV right now.Most of the programs Iwatch are not in HD anyway, or don't benefit much from it (e.g., TheSimpsons).I'm even less interested in paying extra for HD TV. Basic cable suits my needs.:) Then MythTV works for you. At the same time, though, my Series 2 box is starting to show signsof old age.I suspect at least one of the hard drives is going bad --perhaps both, since they are identical models purchased and installedat the same time.But even if I get away with just one drive replacement, I'd still like dual tuners, still more capacity, betterperformance, more features, etc.The S3 would give me that, and TiVohas always been a joy to use. But where's the joy of adding things you WANT it to do, but doesn't. ;-) Like in my case, playing ripped DVDs off of the now almost full 2 gig server. (Speaking of which, got I gotta transcode those rips). Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find itworks in day-to-day usage? When I used it in the past it was the bawlz. Turning on the TV to browse slashdot and the weather in the morning while the news is in PnP is just awesome. I'm not as concerned with how hard it is to set-up -- I'm confidentI can figure that out.What I want to avoid is something that's apain to *use*, or that I have to tinker with to keep it working, orthat fails to record programs properly, etc.If I'm watching TV, it means I want to take my brain off-hook for awhile.:-)So I want itto behave like a good appliance -- something that, once installed,stays working for long periods of time. It behaves VERY well as an appliance. You would never know it was a Linux box if you where joe shmoe. But at the same time, you can tweak encoders, etc, and satisfy your geek side. Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)
On Tuesday 07 November 2006 02:45 pm, Ben Scott wrote: Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it works in day-to-day usage? My wife and I use ours a lot, but there have been wrinkles. If you intend to keep up with the latest versions, then backup often. I find I have to go through at least a few headaches each time I set it up and every upgrade so far has been at least a little bit like setting it up the first time. For what it's worth, I've always used KnoppMyth as the distro of choice to get things going. However, if you get it up and running and just use it, it's highly reliable. I only try upgrades maybe once a year or so. The rest of the time I have occasional lockups - maybe once every 2-3 months. Somewhat common, the frontend crashes (never the backend really) and so restarting the frontend became commonplace enough that I tied my power button on my remote to a script that would start the frontend if it wasn't running. And the problems I have could largely be due to cheap hardware - I've never been one to invest in consumer grade hardware much and I've replaced more motherboards than I care to think about in the last five years, always buying the cheapest I can find and putting the slowest processor I can buy in if I need a new one to fit the new motherboard. My wife's not a computer geek. She doesn't do Linux much, although she is technical in nature and so she appreciates all the cool stuff we can do with Myth. She'd definitely be annoyed with me if it didn't work well, but she's proud to show it off when we have guests. I figure that must count for something. -N ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)
On 11/7/06, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the same time, though, my Series 2 box is starting to show signs of old age. I suspect at least one of the hard drives is going bad -- perhaps both, since they are identical models purchased and installed at the same time. But even if I get away with just one drive Drive replacement isn't hard. I upped my 2 40GB units to 80GB and 160GB in one day. I could've kept the 40s as 2nd drives too. replacement, I'd still like dual tuners, still more capacity, better performance, more features, etc. The S3 would give me that, and TiVo has always been a joy to use. S3 takes away 1 feature that S2 had: Tivo2go. In order to get the HDTV and the CableCard, Tivo had to give up the ability to transfer and burn to DVD. I'm not sure the MultiRoom viewing thing is available either. For me, that clearly puts MythTV (which I don't have) better. I have 2 Tivos and transfer from one to another all the time. I've pushed/pulled shows off to Tivo Desktop to pull back later and have burned DVDs to watch later. I'd like to rip my DVDs to a file server running galleon or tivo desktop so I can transfer movies to the tivos and my kids never handle another DVD again. Think MP3 jukebox for DVDs. There are some contortions to go to/from DVD but it can be done. MythTV just does MPEG-2 right? So it would be easier. And kludges like Tivo Desktop and Galleon are not needed. Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it works in day-to-day usage? I'm not as concerned with how hard it is to set-up -- I'm confident I can figure that out. What I want to avoid is something that's a pain to *use*, or that I have to tinker with to keep it working, or that fails to record programs properly, etc. If I'm watching TV, it means I want to take my brain off-hook for awhile. :-) So I want it to behave like a good appliance -- something that, once installed, stays working for long periods of time. As you know, Tivo has a high SAF (Spousal Approval Factor - Neil Cherry). It seems to me MythTV needs some $$ up front for the hardware but after that runs forever. The Tivo you can get for free with a prepaid one year subscription ($16.95/mo or $6.95 if you have more then one). Plus the Tivo hardware is designed to sit nice and quietly on top of the TV and look good. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)
I'm not sure the MultiRoom viewing thing is available either. For me, I just have my tivo and my normal receiver are in the basement. They go into a dual channel modulator. I have a couple IR repeaters. Now I have TiVo in every room at any time and dont' have to buy more hardware. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)
On Nov 7, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Ben Scott wrote: Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it works in day-to-day usage? Like I hear from my Tivo friends, It will change your life. On the Columbus Day holiday, I installed a PVR-150mce in a spare FC5 box following Jarod Wilson's HOWTO, and it was pretty much plug-and- play. I'm not as concerned with how hard it is to set-up -- I'm confident I can figure that out. What I want to avoid is something that's a pain to *use*, or that I have to tinker with to keep it working, or that fails to record programs properly, etc. It Just Works to coin a phrase. Or it doesn't. X-Files on Turner record fine, on Sci-Fi, they never do, so perhaps I have a setup error. But mostly it just works. We've recorded a bunch of stuff, played and paused live TV, I haven't tried anything fancy, just a single box with cable and wired internet, and I'm running it from the keyboard. Cursor-up, - down, Escape and Enter pretty much do what you want them to do. Had to look at the user manual to figure out that D deleted a recording. Haven't tried to figure out much more than that, so far, but there's lots of other cool things it will do. If I'm watching TV, it means I want to take my brain off-hook for awhile. :-) So I want it to behave like a good appliance -- something that, once installed, stays working for long periods of time. Yup. The core MythTV just installs and works. Now, if you want to tweak with the whole MythTV Suite - rip DVDs, make it a music jukebox, archive your DVDs, play arcade games,... you can tweak forever. Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)
On Tuesday 07 November 2006 07:21 pm, Ted Roche wrote: It Just Works to coin a phrase. Or it doesn't. X-Files on Turner record fine, on Sci-Fi, they never do, so perhaps I have a setup error. But mostly it just works. I had an issue with SciFi too. You can fine-tune the channels in the MythTV web interface or in the database. There's a channels table and I set the finetune column for SCIFI to -5. Comes in clear now. -N ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)
On 11/7/06, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drive replacement isn't hard. I know. I upgraded it from the single 80 GB drive it came with to the twin 120 GB units that are in there now. ;-) S3 takes away 1 feature that S2 had: Tivo2go. In order to get the HDTV and the CableCard, Tivo had to give up the ability to transfer and burn to DVD. I'm not sure the MultiRoom viewing thing is available either. TTG and MRV are both presently disabled on the S3. Likewise the eSATA port. The party line from TiVo is that they are by no means gone for good, just disabled until TiVo can prove to CableLabs that their DRM works. Whether that's accurate or wishful thinking is the big question. It seems to me MythTV needs some $$ up front for the hardware but after that runs forever. Well, since I've got the Lifetime Service, I'm effectively in the same boat there, TiVo or MythTV. I have to pay up front ($700 + $200 for the TiVo S3, or whatever for a MythTV box), but after that, I'm good forever. If I had to pay the monthly fee for the TiVo I wouldn't even be having this discussion. :) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)
On 11/7/06, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it works in day-to-day usage? Like I hear from my Tivo friends, It will change your life. Absolutely. The thought of TV without a good DVR is totally unacceptable to me now. ... I installed a PVR-150mce ... That card is capture only, right? So the TV/monitor will need VGA in, or the computer will need TV-video out, I take it? It Just Works to coin a phrase. Or it doesn't. X-Files on Turner record fine, on Sci-Fi, they never do, so perhaps I have a setup error. But mostly it just works. Hrmmm. It's the mostly that concerns me. :) The screen shots on http://www.mythtv.org/ look *very* impressive. It's come a *long* way since I looked at it last. (Which was quite some time ago.) Hrmmm. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Tivo vs MythTV (was: *pout* HDTV No Recordee....)
Those of you here who are already using MythTV, how do you find it works in day-to-day usage? Brilliantly. I have a back end on Debian Etch/Testing with 3 tuners (a PVR-350 and a PVR-500) and while the IVTV drivers aren't the most stable, I have very, very little problem with the system. Once every few weeks it'll need a cold boot; the biggest problem is for me to resist the temptation to play with the OS and to upgrade things. :-) I'm not as concerned with how hard it is to set-up -- I'm confident I can figure that out. What I want to avoid is something that's a pain to *use*, or that I have to tinker with to keep it working, or that fails to record programs properly, etc. The install is, IMHO, a PITA, but yes, you'll overcome that. The usage is where it shines. You'll likely be very pleased on that score. If I'm watching TV, it means I want to take my brain off-hook for awhile. :-) So I want it to behave like a good appliance -- something that, once installed, stays working for long periods of time. Yup, that's been my mindset, and Myth has met that criteria well. It's completely revamped the way I watch TV. The number of hours watched has fallen a lot, but the quality of what I watch has skyrocketed. I'm in a habit of scanning through the new listing once every two weeks to tag what looks interesting, and there's always something good on -- I no longer have a clue as to when anything is on; everything is on my schedule. And the impact it's had on my four year old son is also dramatic. He doesn't have a clue about something not being on now and his exposure to advertising (Myth's commercial skipping is a godsend!) is nil. For example, he called me from the kitchen the other day hollaring about a clown he saw on some TV show. When I walked in, it was a Nickelodeon show I didn't have tagged for commercial skipping and he saw Ronald McDonald. It took a second for it to dawn on me that he wasn't on a firstname basis with Ronald. :-) My advice would be to set it up on a box. I think the biggest quirk Myth has is in changing channels on live TV (it takes a few seconds because it's really not live TV), but it's solid, loaded with features, and will likely completely rewrite the way you watch TV. Regards, . Randy -- Fast fact: The US minimum wage today is lower, in inflation-adjusted dollars, than in 1979. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: SATA Cables Needed
I have an unopened package of 1 24 SATA cable I'm willing to part with. Is a Dynex cable. Does $5 sound good? Dan Andrew W. Gaunt wrote: Not directly linux related, but, for a linux box. We need some SATA cables that are a bit longer than the usual 18/19 that are typical. Can't seem to find any locally, only by placing an order online etc.which I need to avoid. Without going into the stupid reasons why, does anyone know of a shop/store that can provide such locally? I'm in Westford MA now. -Andrew Gaunt ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/