Re: Google Earth Available for Linux...
On 11/12/06, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In case you didn't know, Google Earth is now availabe for Linux: http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html Wow, somebody should have a LUG meeting on that ;-) http://mail.gnhlug.org/pipermail/gnhlug-announce/2006-October/000347.html What : Google Earth Who : Rob Anderson Day : Mon 13 Nov 2006 Time : 7:00 PM Where: Room 301, Morse Hall, UNH, Durham, NH This November's SLUG meeting will be on Google Earth, with Rob Anderson leading the discussion. We're hoping everyone will get involved for a group learning session. What is Google Earth? - "It's a globe that sits inside your PC. You point and zoom to anyplace on the planet that you want to explore. Satellite images and local facts zoom into view. Tap into Google search to show local points of interest and facts. Zoom to a specific address to check out an apartment or hotel. View driving directions and even fly along your route." -- from http://earth.google.com/earth.html Google Earth is free for personal use, and is available for Linux, Mac OS X, and something called "Windows". About SLUG -- SLUG is the Seacoast Linux User Group, and is a chapter of GNHLUG, the Greater NH Linux User Group. Rob Anderson is the SLUG coordinator. SLUG meets the second Monday of every month, same time, same place. You can find out more about SLUG and GNHLUG at the http://slug.gnhlug.org/ and http://www.gnhlug.org/ websites. Meetings take place starting at 7:00 PM. Meetings are open to all. The meeting proper ends around 9ish, but it's not uncommon to find hangers-on there until 10 or later. They take place in Room 301 (the third floor conference room), of Morse Hall, at the University of New Hampshire, in Durham. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Google Earth Available for Linux...
Sabayon linux has a live CD with google earth on it. http://www.sabayonlinux.orgOn 11/12/06, Fred < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:In case you didn't know,Google Earth is now availabe for Linux: http://earth.google.com/download-earth.htmlI tried running it on my FC5 system, but ran into problems with GLX. Perhapsyou'll have better luck. -Fred___gnhlug-discuss mailing listgnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Google Earth Available for Linux...
Fred wrote: > In case you didn't know, > Google Earth is now availabe for Linux: > > http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html Mandriva runs it fine, both 32 bit and 64 bit. It has for a few months now. I like it. It's a serious time waster I love it. Brian ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Novell,MS and Xen
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 22:54:11 +0300 "Jeffry Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/11/06, Bruce Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not to throw cold water on these well-fanned flames but... > > > > Prediction: Microsoft will buy Novell/SUSE or otherwise acquire all the > > Unix IP and try to litigate Linux/Unix out of business. Then it will > > turn its lawyer cannons on the GPL. > > > > Only one problem - I doubt Novell owns all the Unix copyrights. And SCO didn't own Unix copyrights either. SCO's lawsuits are not, and were never, likely to prevail. But lack of basis didn't stop lawsuits from happening. As long as money has continued to be available there has been continuing court action, and continuing FUD in the press which *ahem* somebody may have found convenient. (True, harassment/FUD lawsuits cost big money. But that didn't stop SCO. They were even able to find investors to pitch in and help...) -Bill ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Google Earth Available for Linux...
In case you didn't know, Google Earth is now availabe for Linux: http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html I tried running it on my FC5 system, but ran into problems with GLX. Perhaps you'll have better luck. -Fred ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: MythTV hw question
On 11/12/06, Derek Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quoting Jeff Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> On 11/12/06, Derek Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >>> Some VGA outs can only get up to 1080i and can't get the throughput>> of 1080p, especially since I'm asking for nearly 995328000 B/s (unless>> I've miscalulated 1920 x 1080 x 4 x 120... >>> Another thing to remember is Myth is moving to using OpenGL Fonts and if I> understood things correctly, many TV-Out ports don't support that.I'm ignoring the TV-Out port; there is NO TV-Out that can output HDTV, so that's ireelevant to this discussion. Useful to someone else, butirrelevant to me.Ah, didn't know that. So because I don't own anything HD yet, do most HDTVs have a VGA port on them? -- Jeff MacdonaldAyer, MA ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: MythTV hw question
Derek Atkins writes: > Some VGA outs can only get up to 1080i and can't get the throughput > of 1080p, especially since I'm asking for nearly 995328000 B/s (unless > I've miscalulated 1920 x 1080 x 4 x 120... That's the first issue, since these boards use main memory for the video you'll need high bandwidth RAM to feed the chipset. 1080p is only about 8MB so size isn't an issue bandwidth may be. The second issue is the max dot clock the chipset can drive out the VGA port. My CN400 shows: (II) VIA(0): Clock range: 20.00 to 230.00 MHz That clock must include not just the visible picture but the sync and blanking after each line needed by the actual display device on the other end. Some searching found these lines for 60hz: Modeline "1920x1080i60" 74.25 1920 1976 2008 2200 1080 1083 1085 1125 +Hsync +Vsync Interlace Modeline "1920x1080p60" 148.50 1920 1976 2008 2200 1080 1083 1085 1125 +Hsync +Vsync 148Mhz clock is needed for [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] would require a 297Mhz clock which is beyond the VIA chipset's limit of 230Mhz. There is also good info here: http://www.linuxis.us/linux/media/howto/linux-htpc/video_card_configuration.html I plugged in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] line and got this: (II) VIA(0): ViaValidMode: Validating 1920x1080 (148500) (II) VIA(0): ViaModePrimaryVGAValid (II) VIA(0): Required bandwidth is not available. (497664000 > 46100) The clock was ok, but memory bandwidth was insufficent. This system has a PC2700 DIMM, a PC3200 DIMM would probably be enough and DDR2 would be fine too. The X driver actually measures the memory bandwidth on startup. -- Dave ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: MythTV hw question
Quoting Jeff Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 11/12/06, Derek Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some VGA outs can only get up to 1080i and can't get the throughput of 1080p, especially since I'm asking for nearly 995328000 B/s (unless I've miscalulated 1920 x 1080 x 4 x 120... Another thing to remember is Myth is moving to using OpenGL Fonts and if I understood things correctly, many TV-Out ports don't support that. I'm ignoring the TV-Out port; there is NO TV-Out that can output HDTV, so that's ireelevant to this discussion. Useful to someone else, but irrelevant to me. That's why I'm asking for the actual VGA specs. I suppose I'm going to have to contact their technical support lines once I'm close. Then of course I get to decide how I want to get IR into the box -- do I put in a PVR-250 and make it a slave backend or do I do something else? -derek -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP key available ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Venezuela goes Linux?
On 11/12/06, Jon maddog Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The next day, Microsoft announces they are opening a Technology Center in Venezuela, and will be offering deep discounts and large grants to Venezuelan schools and businesses. Maybe. But you should remember that Mr. Chavez considers Bush the "devil". If he considers Bush the devil, then maybe having FOSS as a "back up" to using Microsoft is considered to be a good tactical, if not strategic, move. My remark wasn't intended to imply that all of these sorts of government announcements are just attempts to leverage more discounts out of Microsoft (although I'm sure some of them are). Rather, it was an observation that Microsoft's first reaction to these sorts of things is always to start trying to bribe the market with short-term incentives, designed to preserve their lock-in for the long-term. That trend has what I hope are obvious parallels with the recent Novell deal. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: MythTV hw question
On 11/12/06, Derek Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some VGA outs can only get up to 1080i and can't get the throughputof 1080p, especially since I'm asking for nearly 995328000 B/s (unlessI've miscalulated 1920 x 1080 x 4 x 120...Another thing to remember is Myth is moving to using OpenGL Fonts and if I understood things correctly, many TV-Out ports don't support that. -- Jeff MacdonaldAyer, MA ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Venezuela goes Linux?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > The next day, Microsoft announces they are opening a Technology Center in > Venezuela, and will be offering deep discounts and large grants to Venezuelan > schools and businesses. Maybe. But you should remember that Mr. Chavez considers Bush the "devil". If he considers Bush the devil, then maybe having FOSS as a "back up" to using Microsoft is considered to be a good tactical, if not strategic, move. md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association Board Member Emeritus: USENIX Association (2000-2006) (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA used pursuant to a license from Linux Mark Institute, authorized licensor of Linus Torvalds, owner of the Linux trademark on a worldwide basis (R)UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Venezuela goes Linux?
On 11/11/06, David Ecklein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Item from a Venezuela news list (www.VHeadline.com): "Chavez opens free technologies center in Merida: President Hugo Chavez Frias has visited Merida to open the National Center of Development and Research in Free Technologies (Cendital). The next day, Microsoft announces they are opening a Technology Center in Venezuela, and will be offering deep discounts and large grants to Venezuelan schools and businesses. At least, that's what usually happens. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Novell,MS and Xen
On 11/11/06, Jeffry Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:might Only one problem - I doubt Novell owns all the Unix copyrights. I've noticed that reality is not the dominating factor in the world of big court battles. My personal pet-conspiracy-theory is that this is just Microsoft's first step in an attempt to gain control of Linux by buying or destroying major Linux companies. Which is not to say that the attempt will succeed. Thankfully, ownership "Linux" as software is so diverse that I think even Microsoft would find that impossible. But they may well make life difficult. Worse, they could scare the commercial markets. There's lots of companies that want a company (like Red Hat, Novell, etc.) behind their Linux operations, because it makes their suits feel better. A full-on assault from Microsoft could make the suits feel worried indeed. And, it makes no difference to Linux anyway. No patents left (over 20 years), Trademark to The Open Group, no trade secrets. That leaves copyrights. Which Linux doesn't violate. You're assuming any "intellectual property" that Linux might "violate" is from the original Unix source. Linux is largely new code, and there are plenty of new ideas in it. Say Microsoft says some algorithm Linux 2.4 introduced is patented by them. That's ammunition for a court attack. Even if it's bullsh*t, by the time that gets settled, Red Hat (or whoever) might be mortally wounded. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: MythTV hw question
I want to be sure that before I go and spend $150-200 on the board (and even more to get the memory and other stuff that goes with it) that the machine can actually output the 1080p VGA signal that I want. There are two issues at hand: 1) Being able to decode 720p and 1080i MPEG signals 2) Being able to translate, resize, and deinterlace those HD signals. 3) Being able to display a 1080p VGA signal, preferably at 120Hz Some VGA outs can only get up to 1080i and can't get the throughput of 1080p, especially since I'm asking for nearly 995328000 B/s (unless I've miscalulated 1920 x 1080 x 4 x 120... -derek Quoting Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I believe the maximum resolution out the VGA pot is 1920x1080. But out of curiosity, what exactly are you asking for? It can easily handle standard HD resolutions. Thomas On 11/11/06, Derek Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They don't specify the VGA output resolution, and I can't seem to find that specification anywhere. I even downloaded their PDF Manual and that info isn't in it. -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP key available ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: MythTV hw question
I believe the maximum resolution out the VGA pot is 1920x1080. But out of curiosity, what exactly are you asking for? It can easily handle standard HD resolutions. Thomas On 11/11/06, Derek Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They don't specify the VGA output resolution, and I can't seem tofind that specification anywhere. I even downloaded their PDFManual and that info isn't in it. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
[programming] Thread Safe STL
I sent this out to a couple of other lists. The Linux C++ STL (Standard Template Library) is not threadsafe. I'm working on a project where I will need the functionality of the STL but it also must be threadsafe. Currently, the only one I am familiar with is Rogue Wave® SourcePro® C++. I've used this before, and the company I am working with has used it in some of their products, but their version is several years old. Other than STL, Rogue Wave® contains libraries for things like Linear Algebra (LAPACK). Tony Gabrielson mentioned QT, which is a possibility. What I would like to know is if there are other good commercial or OpenSource threadsafe STLs. BTW: The C++ standards committee will probably never endorse threadsafeness. -- Jerry Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/